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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/15/2008 19:04:40
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gingin6
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When I'm watching these full episodes, I keep getting bombarded with Viagraads. Really now that's annoying and BBT is just plain funny. They're young andin their prime so it's natural for them to be curious and talk about it. I don't seeanything wrong with it. It's just too funny. If you don't like it, mute it like yousaid. Honestly the more your teens learn, maybe they'll wait till they're married ormuch much much older. Ha. That was old school and now it's out there rather it'son tv or at school. Sara character is great the way she is. It's so true though that Sheldon can be a dumb ass. I would like to see her and Leo have a better relationship. She's fickleand it seems there's a one sided point here. Making her out to be wanting onething from Leo. So she needs to have more character. There's still yet we don'tknow much about her since we don't see her all the time like Kaley's role.I saw Kaley get punked. It was funny.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/16/2008 00:19:38
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GoodmanBeav
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The BBT is perfect as is! I hope the Brits are working on their own version, since we've borrowed so many sitcom ideas from them over the years. I have a feeling they'd love it.Also -- If the fundies are complaining, the writers are doing something right.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/16/2008 08:38:13
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maylara24
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I like the Leslie character, but it's so one-note. I mean, every time she's in a cafeteria scene with the guys, we know what's going to happen: insult Sheldon, a few lines with the guys, insult Sheldon again. I am trying to remember why she hates Sheldon so much. I think he made some sexist comments about her being a physisist. I'd like to see more scenes with her and Sheldon alone exploring that argument!
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/18/2008 02:48:50
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gingin6
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They seem to get into it over the science thing. They just couldn't agree andSheldon does come off with some idiotic socialism spats.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/18/2008 15:29:42
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of_the_shire
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First of all, I'm SO thankful that people out there are even bothered that there's a bit too much sex in the show; yes, there is hope for our society! Who-hoo!Yes, sexual discussion is a part of life, and yes, this show is definitely not geared for children, and probably shouldn't be watched by most teens. The characters theoretically should represent the audience, hence, the audience should probably be college age and up, simply because of this issue.I watch the show for one reason: nerd/geek humor. This show has nailed that perfectly. Last night's episode was a great example of this, with the "Lizard-Spock" added to "Rock-Paper-Scissors." I watch this show because the characters, in a very general sense, reflect me and my friends, though admittedly, I don't personally know a "Wolowitz," or a "Sheldon." Sheldon's definitely the heart of the show, or rather his interactions with Penny, which contribute primarily to the energy and emotion of the narrative. For a story to mean anything, literally (as in, the context of literature, art, drama, etc.) a character needs to grow. In "The Big Bang Theory" the protagonist Leonard grows, yes, but Sheldon is the challenge, and I expect stretching his growth and development throughout the series will be the driving force in the plot. I can't wait to see the girl that's going to be too much for him to handle. Can anyone imagine what a love-struck Sheldon will be like? (Yes, I've seen the episode where he walks out with Raj's date, but he wasn't exactly romantically smitten then.)That being said, why does this show need to be a watered-down version of "American Pie?!" I mean, COME ON people, Hollywood has done the "nerdy-guy-trying-to-get-a-gir l" plot enough!!! I want more substance than just sexual innuendo, followed by more clear references to sex. This is an intellectual show, causing viewers to have to remember science terms they haven't heard since high school physiology, and has the potential for really broadening people's minds. The writers don't need sex jokes to hook people into watching "TBBT;" they've already done that with the characters' and the personalities set up in season 1. I hope they don't drop the ball with this show and turn it into yet another "Friends"-like sitcom.Conclusion: Sure, they could rewrite Leslie Winkle, but they shouldn't soften her antagonism to Sheldon. But also, several other characters have the same moral issues in regards to audience. Here's hoping.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/18/2008 16:22:13
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Michele665
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Wow. Does everyone always have to be so picky? Why can't we just enjoy the show for what it is? The writers aren't trying to do ANYTHING. They are just writing it the way they see it. Its a GOOD show. Okay?! Its a GREAT show, and if you are going to analyze it for every little thing, then i think you should just stop watching TV altogether. Because in all honesty, every show is going to have something that someone is 'really against', just because a character says or does something. But a great show doesn't go by what the world wants. It goes by what the writers visualize. For what they wanted to make it.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/18/2008 17:03:48
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of_the_shire
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Television is an extension of film, which is an extension of drama, which is the basis of narrative art and storytelling, therefore, TV is ART. If that isn't worth analyzing, then what is?I care about what I watch. It's like food. I'm only going to take in what's good for me, or in this case, what has positive, intellectual results. Otherwise, television is a waste of time.Art/Entertainment reflects a society, so why shouldn't a society care about its representation?I love movies, and television, and I do watch plenty of stuff outside my comfort zone.It's up to the writers, yes, and I basically am really happy with what they've created so far, but there is a tendency in today's culture to aim for the lowest common denominator, or the easiest answer (sexual subject matter) in entertainment, since afterall, it is a business. I'm simply hoping that the writers aim for something more meaningful, because, like I said, the show has great heart.Being picky isn't a bad thing; don't know where you got that idea. As with many things, it's only a negative when taken to an excessive point.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/18/2008 22:07:26
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gingin6
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since we've borrowed so many sitcom ideas from them over the years I'm curious to know what shows we borrowed? Don't forget it goes both ways. Some oftheir shows are here with the same host. We didn't take over it with our own people. Ourshows are over there as well. So every country sees something interesting and want it airedover there as well as here. No different than trading goods and food.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/19/2008 08:02:50
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lovebigbang
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Leslie is a strong, secure, smart confident woman. IF these comments came from a man they would be considered funny, even admirable.She is sure of herself and in our world when a woman is sure of herself and speaks her mind she is a B**ch or she's easy. But it's acceptable behavior for a man.I think she comlements Sheldon very well, she is the only character on the show that can put him in his place.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/20/2008 02:38:26
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gingin6
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I like that ideal to put him in his place. He needs that.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/21/2008 11:52:57
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monsmagic
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I would like to see more of Sara Gilbert. She plays her character so well. It would be nice to see her tone down a little, but still keep her ability for a monotone. I agree, she is the perfect nemesis for Sheldon.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/21/2008 12:22:21
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TSL15
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the show wouldnt be the same without leslie...when i see her on the screen i know - SHELDON is getting his portion..lol
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/21/2008 17:55:08
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remembercash
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how do we know if anyone's opinion is their own and not what someone told them to think?
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/21/2008 19:02:45
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of_the_shire
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While I can see why many viewers see Leslie as Sheldon's nemesis perfected, I still say that Penny, who represents the more "normal" female in society ("normal" of course meant very much in a broad sense of the word), does hilariously well at standing up to Sheldon. I know there's a debate already going on this message board somewhere about the episode where she and Sheldon battle things out, but it is worth pointing out that Penny is a strong woman too. She's bringing the "guys" out of their comfortable world, into the larger one, and generally in a positive way.What's great too, is that while Penny is able to hold her own against them, and while helping them, the guys also expand her knowledge and experience too. Remember where she's explaining "Shrodinger's Cat" to that other guy? She couldn't have done that prior to Sheldon teaching it TO HER.Sorry, but Leslie just doesn't have my main vote. Sure, she's smart, but she probably creeps me out more than anything. When I see her come on the screen, I don't anticipate a cool put-down of Sheldon, I'm thinking, "Here we go again." I look forward instead to the verbal battles and punches Sheldon receives from Penny, in my opinion, a much more worthy opponent in a different way.Though romantically speaking, I still think Sheldon will encounter a girl too much for him to handle, who is going to HUMBLE him. NOT humiliate him, HUMBLE him. Leslie Winkle is just there to humiliate him, so I don't really see potentional for a "Sheldon-in-relationship-with- Leslie Winkle" scenario.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/21/2008 19:17:50
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of_the_shire
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And another thing I've been meaining to ask: what's a "fundie?" (From the earlier posting "If the fundies are complaining...")Are we talking "fundementalists?" Because frankly, you don't need to be a fundementalist (religious fundementalist) to take issue with something morally. You just need to have a moral compass that tells you something doesn't feel right. Again, good job to whoever started this discussion posting for having the courage to say something about it. If something bugs you morally, and you feel moved to tell someone, then more power to you for voicing your feelings on the issue.
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