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Blackstream wrote:

However there's a problem if the producers know that (both) the tribes are trying to throw the challenges, it not only shows bad sportsmanship, it destroys the show and they have to worry about this!

If they wanted to avoid this, they shouldn't have done a late game swap like this. An alliance was bound to outnumber the opposing alliance and want to eliminate as many as possible before the real merge hit like 1-2 episodes later. Whereas an earlier merge like the first one, throwing challenges is a bad idea because who knows when you'll actually merge and what the situation will be then.

That's very true.I agree its quite late in the game for a second tribal switch.We'll have to see if the producers are able to prevent that next week.

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On the other hand, say they do merge at 10 as they usually do, and Susie didn't flip, you'll have Kota 6 vs Fang 4 and for the next 4 episodes you'll probably see Fang being picked off one by one which is really quite boring

I don't know i actually like the onion alliance and i now fear it will be them that will be picked off one by one the only difference is that i think they played a much better game then Fang and deserve to win. Charlie and Corrine are in a alliance with Randy and you just know he will turn on them sooner or later there only hope is if they can reunite with Bob but he is stuck there in the other tribe.

Locotje wrote: I don't know i actually like the onion alliance and i now fear it will be them that will be picked off one by one the only difference is that i think they played a much better game then Fang and deserve to win.

They had it mentally easy, and frankly, I find that boring.I got hooked on this season because of the Fangs troubles and hardship. Eight episodes long we are watching (former) Fang struggle, and trying to survive lack of food and lack of trust. That's entertaining, and I applaud them for it.When the ground became hot for Marcus, he couldn't live up to his top-dog-attitude, and he is out. He is even such a bad loser to call them "villains", "it's unfair" and even threatens to get even at the jury. Now how weak is that?I wonder how Charly will fare under some mental stress. Frankly, not very well I expect.

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Yea they had it easy because they played a better game, Fang could have had it easy to but they choose to spend there time fighting that is there fault.

sarasotamom wrote: Absolutely, or my Bob will be gone. I really hope that Crystal and Suze do not go far. Crystal is so mean and Suze is just a coattail player.

Suzie I think wil get as far as fifth or sixth, but no further than that.

Locotje wrote:

On the other hand, say they do merge at 10 as they usually do, and Susie didn't flip, you'll have Kota 6 vs Fang 4 and for the next 4 episodes you'll probably see Fang being picked off one by one which is really quite boring

I don't know i actually like the onion alliance and i now fear it will be them that will be picked off one by one the only difference is that i think they played a much better game then Fang and deserve to win. Charlie and Corrine are in a alliance with Randy and you just know he will turn on them sooner or later there only hope is if they can reunite with Bob but he is stuck there in the other tribe.

Randy is the wild card. THe Onion ALliance has not kept Randy in the loop. They've made decisions and then shared, or not shared, the decision with the rest of the group, ie. Dan's eviction.But, Randy doesn't seem to like Matty. I can't remember. Did her like Crystal and Kenny? Because if he did we could have Ken, Crystal, Randy, and Susie in an alliance with swing votes from either Matty or Sugar. With Bob, Corrine, and Charlie on the other side. THey better start playing nice now! Corrine and Charlie allienate ppl with all their long talks without including others. THey are soooo smug and kocky and that will come back to bite you in the ass everytime! THink Ozzy, James, and now Marcus!

They have to lose next challenge its the only way to save Bob from going under offcourse Sugar stil has the idol so its risky bouth ways.This new twist just totaly broke olKota's game they don't have a change now and instaid of seeing olFang get picked of one by one we will now see olKota get picked of its the same thing nothing more exiting and just as predictable the only difference is that olKota earned and fought for there victories while Fang just layed back and got the win on a silver platter.

Locotje wrote: ...while Fang just layed back and got the win on a silver platter.

What silver platter? From the start Ken and Chrystals head is on the chopping block. Practically every TC one of them was voted for, and they have to play a card to avoid exit.It was another close call yesterday. I don't see any free ride in it.

I think if Corinne and Charlie do throw challenges, its to save Bob from being outnumbered by Ken, Crystal, and Suzie. and even if they throw the challenge, its not going to be easy for them to take out Matty or Sugar. They are seriously going to have to take it slow with that idol. They should think that Sugar has the idol for being at Exile for how many times now.

Okay Im sorry to but in. First of all, whats with all the poor Fang stuff? Fang got to decide who was on their team. From the start the entire "mothers got to stick together". Wtf. Suzie was one of the first to get chosen. they had a weak team from the start. Then no one wanted to be leader. Dan and Matty both physically able like Marcus, but what, don't have what it takes? Ok then they changed up. Kota chose strong people again, and avioded bad ones, like GC. Everything was chioce. In the new tribes they got rid of jackie? Why the heck? The way they voted people was stupid. And Crystal, everything said about her got exaggerated by her. At the end how was Kenny and Crystal thinking they could keep an alliance withMatty. He can't trust them, they got rid of Ace. And sugar, come on. Then Kenny and Crystal just never had an alliance ever. Kenny was strong, but with Matty. Crystal was in the olympics! What the heck. You think she had it more in her. A photographer and surfer were stronger. Matty, Ace, Sugar and Kenny would have been awesome. But whats done is done. One thing now with the days ahead is that Kota will win. How? Well obviously the Kota 6 now 5 will vote for themselves as council. Yeah they're that tight and close. At least the five anyway. And the idea of people just getting picked off. No, not at all. Everyone knows how the onion alliance is formed. Marcus, Charlie, Corrine, Randy, Bob, then Susie. Susie, then Bob, then Randy will try and double cross at some time maybe because they will see that the top three are too close. They need what is left with fang to do that or there will be double crosses within the happy home. And what Susie doesn't realize is that she can go far for the fact that she is weak. Challeneges against her with be wanted. That is how Marcus could have played her up to other top 3 or charlie. That simple. What everyone needs to worry about is top 2. Because that one person that is ur best friend will decide if you stay. Just like last time. I think one of Kota will win and i'd bet on it. As for next week, old Fang will fall when it comes to sugar and Matty. And Kenny being strong and possibly win, hell no. Oh well that my say.

Okay Im sorry to but in. First of all, whats with all the poor Fang stuff?

Yea i agree they had there fate in there own hands and they choose to mess it up!!

I don't believe they change any challenges during the game. The challenges have to be set up and tried out before the season begins. It wouldn't be cost efficient to try to change them in a days time. I don't think the challenges are geared to specific players either. It just looks that way because some players have a knack for the types of challenges being presented, so those people emerge as the strong players.

From one of last weeks "charlie secret scenes " we learn he likes Matty. with Marcus gone- does Charlie have the same incentive to stick with the "kota 4" -- Will he find Randy's actions at the immunity challenge distasteful--has he had enough of Ms."I hate hers" outbursts? could he see new possibilities with sugar/matty & ken? or will he stick with randy & corriene cuz they are better choices to take to the jury (he is a lawyer- he does think in terms of playing to the jury) His voting confessional for dan did say "lawyer to lawyer- I don't trust you" stay tuned.

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What i'm hoping for is that he and Corinne wil align with Sugar and Matty to form a new front against Kenny and co. pretty please let it happen like that

eRiKhMpSu wrote: I think if Corinne and Charlie do throw challenges, its to save Bob from being outnumbered by Ken, Crystal, and Suzie. and even if they throw the challenge, its not going to be easy for them to take out Matty or Sugar. They are seriously going to have to take it slow with that idol. They should think that Sugar has the idol for being at Exile for how many times now.

Yes, but arrogant, oh so loveable and know it all Randy ... thinks that Sugar had no chance in hell of finding the HII. He claimed that wisdom in the last episode. He does not think that Sugar has it. If the whiz kid Randy convinces Corrine and Charley she does not have it and they go after Matty ... Sugar gives Matty the Hii - and Matty &Sugar vote odd Randy ... bye bye you mean, ugly egostsical creature! Randy was the idiot who claimed he was going to do nothing but lay low. He did nothing of the sort. He lied and connived his way into the onion alliance by turning on Dan, his supposed friend. With friends like Randy, who the hell needs enemies?

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