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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 03:58:11
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phygit
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Tonight on BBAD, Dan "suggested" and/or "implied" that he would be willing to give Keesha money if he wins (ie. if she can get him enough jury votes).Obviously this is explicitely against the game rules (and grounds for eviction?), so he didn't just come out and say it directly, but he did it on more than one occasion tonight in the HoH room with Keesha...He first whispers/mouths something to her, ending in what may or may not be "leagal" and then he goes on to say that he'd be interested in "investing in Taylor-ed Clothing" (ie. Keesha Taylor, Tailored Clothing - get it?). He then repeats this offer again an hour or so later (at roughly 1:45 BBT, after BBAD), because Keesha didn't get it the first time. When he made the offer the second time, he had to draw it out (and nearly spell it out) before Keesha finally caught on.Someone needs to go watch the tape and do something about this - I'm not out to get Dan or anything, but he's constantly shown a penchant for not following rules/guidelines of the game and now he's so cocky that he thinks he can offer to share the winnings and get away with it. This is explicitely against the rules and contract he signed and is not fair to the other HG who don't break the rules like this.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 08:31:48
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zainabubu
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hey, he feels bad for her...how is that a bad thing? Besides, he has the america's player's money...was that included in the non sharing policy?
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 08:35:03
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katgib13
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He may not be permitted to give her any of his winnings but he is allowed to give her his own money that he made from his job. No rule against that. There is also no rule about buying her something she wants. Dick bought Dani a new car and took her to Europe for two weeks. So, he wasn't necessarily offering her any of his BB cash he may win.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 08:40:58
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zainabubu
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oh yea, by the way, the theory is bull. I saw the feeds and that didn't happen...all he was talking about was what he plans to do with his winnings...and Keesha just kept on nodding while he was talking...
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 08:56:26
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mylstyr4bb
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We can't influence the vote.......but still people make crap up anyway. I watch BBAD and that never happened.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 09:38:22
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phygit
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mylstyr4bb wrote: We can't influence the vote.......but still people make crap up anyway. I watch BBAD and that never happened. I have no reason to make crap up... it happened. Twice. Just as I stated/paraphrased above. Anyone who's read my other posts knows that I'm not one to make crap up - I mostly spend my time dispelling crap other people make up, offering rational explanations/alternate viewpoints, trying to be impartial relative to the cast, but if anything, I've taken a Dan/Memphis supporter position.I'm sure someone will upload those portions to youtube today sometime... when they do, I'll point you to links to refresh your memory.And, btw - he wasn't talking about his AP money or his teacher's salary - the second time he made the pitch, he specifically said "if I win first place...".
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 09:53:23
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phygit
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zainabubu wrote: oh yea, by the way, the theory is bull. I saw the feeds and that didn't happen...all he was talking about was what he plans to do with his winnings...and Keesha just kept on nodding while he was talking... I guess you haven't been studying Dan's MO for the past 60+ days on the feeds. Anyone who has would know exactly what he was doing. He wasn't just talking in general terms about how he might spend the winnings. He was trying to be "clever" about how he phrased something because he knows it breaches his contract to offer to share winnings to influence other HGs. Keesha didn't "get it" either the first time, so don't feel too bad, but she clearly "got it" the second time he brought it up...paraphrasing, from memory an: "..if I in first place, I'd be open to investing..."Dan: (insert pause here where he stares at Keesha to see if she gets the hint/implication)Keesha: (blank stare)Dan: "...you don't read stares well..."Dan: "...I would invest in Taylor-ed Clothing Line..."Keesha: (finally gets it, laughs)Dan: "...heh.. yeah, you know, Tailors - Tailored Clothing... snicker.."...personally, I don't know for sure what Keesha's last name is (I've also heard Smith), but both Dan and Memphis have called her "Keesha Taylor " on more than one occasion, including earlier yesterday on the feeds.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 09:57:02
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phygit
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katgib13 wrote: He may not be permitted to give her any of his winnings but he is allowed to give her his own money that he made from his job. No rule against that. There is also no rule about buying her something she wants. Dick bought Dani a new car and took her to Europe for two weeks. So, he wasn't necessarily offering her any of his BB cash he may win. If he just gave her money after winnig, that's one thing... it's an entirely different thing to offer other HG a share of he winnings to influence how they vote (and/or encourage them to get others to vote for him as well).
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 10:05:31
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big34snoopy
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Every house guest does that. Heck Keisha tells Jerry that she will invest in his dog problem. Dan isnt buying or bribing votes. He is just having fun with Keisha, he did the same with Renny. Your all paranoid about Dan cheating and being a plant. As for his contract he never broke it. As long as you dont say vote for me and I will give you money then he hasnt broken a single rule.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 10:09:59
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phygit
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Ok, here's the second time he brought it up...http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v - FNAU4EnHOx4This forum messes up links, but go to youtube.com and search for "bb10 Dan and Keesha get ready for bed".EDIT: here's a working link - http://tinyurl.com/689h45 Just because they "laugh it off" does not mean that he wasn't trying to buy her vote. Again, I've never read the contract they sign, so I don't know the exact wording - my only point is that CBS needs to go review the tapes and determine whether what he's doing is within the rules or not - it seems like it's not , to me.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 10:10:10
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booboo814ca
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Dan can invest hi own money in Taylor Clothes, after he wins, since the money he already has in the bank will be freed up. There are many previous winners that did something nice for their new 'friends' after the show.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 10:31:43
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vacogi54
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C'mon folks. A bribe is a bribe. Even if he is talking about his own money (which pity poor Dan "I live on a teachers salary") he's still trying to influence her vote. Funny thing is it was Dans idea too get rid of Keesha.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 13:58:54
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seiple23
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We do have to remember that this is a game, not a popularity contest. As of now, I really do not have any favorite, except anyone but Jerry favorite, but you have to give credit where credit is due. Dan has played this game exceptionally well and clever. He won HOH's and POV's when he needed to, made deals with the people he needed to, and although he has had to make many enemies in the end, he has a great chance of winning it all. Keesha played a great game as well. She was the first one to change the houses vote and stir things up. Everyone up until that point were just voting with the house consensus. She was loyal to Renny and as we have all seen and heard never put her in a position to go back on her word with her alliance. Memphis- eventhough he has done nothing except win a couple POV's- did it when it counted. IMO, he has played the weakest game out of all of them left. Jerry is just down right nasty and I really don't think it is just part of his game. I really do think he is a sexist and racist from the comments he has made throughout the entire game.So...if Dan wants to offer Keesha some "money" and does it by using code phrases, IMO, I think that is spectacular play. I know he is in on it with Memphis to get rid of Keesha, but I genuinely think he feels bad. And if I was Dan, I would want Memphis to get the 4K off of Jerry too. Jerry is F'ed UP!
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 14:14:18
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benquick
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Big Brother opened the window with the $10,000 that April won, they had rules against bribes of any kind, then they gave $10K and said it could be used as a bribe, therefore Dan can use his AP money to bribe and it should be OK. As long as its not the prize money it should be allowed IMO. In fact it would make the game a lot more interesting if the HGs were given BB contracts, like one HG can make another HG sign a contract about a deal, or about prize money. Maybe give them each 2 blank contracts, if you make a deal not to put someone up or backdoor them, get them to sign and force them to go through with the contracts. If you blow your contracts too early too bad you loose your edge. Just a thought to make the non physical people an even playing field Like Renny and Jerry.,
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 09/09/2008 14:18:46
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phygit
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I know that it's a game (I've been saying that for weeks, myself) and I have no problem with the lies, backstabbing, deciet or betrayals - that's all part of the game. The issue I have a problem with is if one of them steps over the line and starts trying to weazel his way around the rules.He knows that he can't make offers to share (give, lend, split, whatever) the prize money in order to get jury votes and yet he does it anyway and is not getting called out on it (by anyone who counts - ie. the producers or CBS).By not taking action on this (or at least reviewing and ruling on it), CBS is showing favoritism and leaving themselves open to lawsuits from the other HGs, if Dan should end up winning.Dan has played a smart game - I was one of the first/only people saying that on the boards many weeks ago - but he tends to get cocky and go overboard (we all could have done without that stupid Roulette game, speech and surrounding actions). If it's just to make an ass out of himself, I have no problem with that, but when he starts thinking the game rules don't apply to him, he needs to get slapped down - just like any other player would be.
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