The Unit

I have never been a fan of the women of this show except for Regina Taylor. They are vapid, silly and always victims. Are there no women in the families of real unit members who have some backbone?? It would be nice if they showed PORTRAYED women as confident, smart and capable.Cant decide who is worse- the Kim Brown character who WHINES ALL THE TIME or the character of Tiffy who cant manage her own life, she is ALWAYS a victim.I am amazed they let her keep her kids on that show,If this season is going to focus on the women more than previous seasons, they will lose a viewer.Show me the men in action, taking down the bad guys. Show the women every other episode if they must be shown.

While I do like all the wives of the operatives on the show (they each have their own strengths and weaknesses), I agree that they generally for the most part have been portrayed as victims. I posted something similar to this on the CAST thread...try as they might to do something to benefit their group or others.....the writers nearly always have it backfire on them. It would be a welcome change to see something they try to do end successfully instead of in failure and disappointment.

Kim is by far the most annoying character on the show. I have watched every episode of the the Unit and I am a great fan of the show. I just finished Season 4, episode 2 (Sudden Flight). For some reason I feel like the writers have decided to make Kim the strong women in the show and she just comes off as annoying. I felt this way before this episode but after watching this episode I feel like screaming every-time she has a scene. I think the actress is good, and I don't know how they can make the Kim character more likable, but right now she is not coming off as a strong women she just comes off as really annoying.

roanmountain wrote: Kim is by far the most annoying character on the show. I have watched every episode of the the Unit and I am a great fan of the show. I just finished Season 4, episode 2 (Sudden Flight). For some reason I feel like the writers have decided to make Kim the strong women in the show and she just comes off as annoying. I felt this way before this episode but after watching this episode I feel like screaming every-time she has a scene. I think the actress is good, and I don't know how they can make the Kim character more likable, but right now she is not coming off as a strong women she just comes off as really annoying.

I agree Kim is a little whiny and annoying. One thing everyone might want to remember Tiffy and Molly have had years to come to terms with the special problems of spouses of The Unit. Kim is still a relative "newby" in comparison. I do think however, they need to evolve her character a little more rapidly and to lose the whine.

Kim is like C3PO!!!! The best ep. for her was the one where she is on the sub in a dream.Please make these women more like Molly....

It seems like everyone hates Kim Brown. Not me... yes she is a bit whiny and she complains a lot. But she is also resourceful and intelligent. As an example, consider how she handled nearly being raped in the radio station. She kept her head and managed to get the station manager's attention. Until season four, she was the only wife that actually participated on a mission with Bob (in Season 1). While she complains, she is also loyal and evidently really loves her husband (as does Molly Blain).The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.Also, while the colonel is a despicable officer with only sporadic honor, at least he was faithful to his wife until she betrayed him and the Unit. Tiffy seems to go running back to Ryan every time. She actively attempts to seduce him and the miserable bastard hasn't got the gonads to send her packing once and for all. This latest resurgence of their affair seems based on Ryan's divorce and Tiffy's impending divorce. Regardless, they are both betraying Mack and to me that is intolerable.Now, while the Unit's code is to kill an officer that sleeps with a shooter's wife, I can't personally justify murder as punishment for adultery. However, Ryan should be brought up on charges and dishonorably discharged from the Army. Mack and Tiffy should get divorced (with joint custody) since their relationship has been dysfunctional from the very beginning. Let Tiffy be someone else's problem as it is obvious she won't be faithful to any spouse no matter how rich or attentive. She will always find a way to rationalize and excuse her betrayals. As I have read other posters’ comments I must conclude that our society is so devoid of values that as long as someone has an attractive face and body we are willing to excuse them from the demands of common decency. So for myself, other than her physical appearance, I find Tiffy to be obnoxious and without any redeeming qualities. I would also render the same judgment on her traitorous partner in adultery, the snarling Col. Ryan.

My thoughts on Tiffy and by extention, Mack. In a lot of ways, Tiffy is not a good Unit wife material, because she is needy. Mack (through no fault of his own) gets sent out and she needs lots of attention. Thus the attraction to Ryan. He is simply available. (sorry Robert Patrick). Then Colonel Ryan sends Mack out on MORE missions and ends up making the situation worse, cause then Tiffy the needy one, sees her guy even less. Other things get in the way of them, Wilson the skeevy lawyer guy (sorry Wilson), Tiff losing her job and ending up in a strip club, Mack being tortured and having to not have real conversations with his wife. You name it, the writers have put more roadblocks between Mack and Tiffy then any other character...but guess what? Look at the smoldering looks that sometimes happen, usually when the other is not seeing it. That attraction is STILL THERE!!!!!!!!So looking forward to seeing how this confrontation plays out and I am ROOTING FOR MACK AND TIFFY!

sniper483 wrote: The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.Also, while the colonel is a despicable officer with only sporadic honor, at least he was faithful to his wife until she betrayed him and the Unit. Tiffy seems to go running back to Ryan every time. She actively attempts to seduce him and the miserable bastard hasn't got the gonads to send her packing once and for all. This latest resurgence of their affair seems based on Ryan's divorce and Tiffy's impending divorce. Regardless, they are both betraying Mack and to me that is intolerable.Now, while the Unit's code is to kill an officer that sleeps with a shooter's wife, I can't personally justify murder as punishment for adultery. However, Ryan should be brought up on charges and dishonorably discharged from the Army. Mack and Tiffy should get divorced (with joint custody) since their relationship has been dysfunctional from the very beginning. Let Tiffy be someone else's problem as it is obvious she won't be faithful to any spouse no matter how rich or attentive. She will always find a way to rationalize and excuse her betrayals.

First I would like to say that I have really enjoyed the season thus far. I can really tell the difference between the end of last season when the writers were head to a strike and the beginning of this season. So far I have enjoyed every episode.I agree with Tiffy and Mack being a couple with a lot of problems. I don't like they way they make Tiffy out to be stupid, needy, lustful and selfish. She is suppose to be an educated woman. She is supposed to be a teacher for peats sake. Teachers are required to have some classes in psychology and the Tiffy character doesn't seem to have a clue about anything, but herself.I agree that Kim is whiny. It seems that Kim is used to give a liberal view of life which, in my experience with military people, is not very military. It could just be me but, I don't know very many military people who are liberal. Quit whining, work within the system with out killing the system and quit complaining.......life isn't fair.I was kind of excited when Mack started dating last season. Not that I would want to see Tiffy go...it is just too exhausting yelling at the TV all the time....don't do it Tiffy, stop!!!!

That girl Mack went to the movies with was quite pretty and they seemed to be enjoying each other's company. Too bad the writers dropped that storyline. It would have been fun to see Mack out there trying to get back in the dating game as part of the homefront storylines.

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sniper483 wrote: The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.Also, while the colonel is a despicable officer with only sporadic honor, at least he was faithful to his wife until she betrayed him and the Unit. Tiffy seems to go running back to Ryan every time. She actively attempts to seduce him and the miserable bastard hasn't got the gonads to send her packing once and for all. This latest resurgence of their affair seems based on Ryan's divorce and Tiffy's impending divorce. Regardless, they are both betraying Mack and to me that is intolerable.Now, while the Unit's code is to kill an officer that sleeps with a shooter's wife, I can't personally justify murder as punishment for adultery. However, Ryan should be brought up on charges and dishonorably discharged from the Army. Mack and Tiffy should get divorced (with joint custody) since their relationship has been dysfunctional from the very beginning. Let Tiffy be someone else's problem as it is obvious she won't be faithful to any spouse no matter how rich or attentive. She will always find a way to rationalize and excuse her betrayals.

Well stated, Sniper483. The writers have certainly portrayed Mack and Tiffy's marriage as a living nightmare for both of them. It is painful for the viewers to see how Mack is hurting so much over his wife's ongoing betrayal with his commanding officer. I absolutely cringe when I see those scenes.

I would have to say my LEAST favorite of the unit would be Molly! By far she is the most Pushy, self centered, arrogant, B****.. Has everyone forgotten the episodes leading up to all the military wives losing the money they invested? Jonus comes home BROKE? She completly drains the savings account to cover everyone elses loss? How about when she pretended to be Kim's friend and take her to the airport then rats her out? She's a two faced you know what. She has always been that way. I liked the episodes leading up to them finding her real father. How she lied to everyone about what he was, and what he had accomplished. Just to make herself and her family seem better....... Gah..... it's crap. I was soooo hoping Jonus would find someone nicer and ditch Molly. We'll see.....My MOST favorite would have to be Kim..... Even though sometimes I'd like to slap her for her stupidity. Atleast she's not cheating, or inserting herself into the other wives lives... Tiffy needs to hurry up and leave the show already. Molly should follow closely behind her.

HEY, Sniper! I've hated Tiffy since the very end of episode 1! Long term affair with her husband's XO, who sends him on missions so they can sleep together, making her friend lie and cover her butt, wanting to leave Mack for Tom - makes her unworthy. Angel, will vouch for my feelings about Tiffy being A skanky ho. She is needy and self-centered, putting her needs above her kids and her husband. While I don't agree with killing her or the Colonel (darn) I do think he needs to kick her to the curb and the colonel needs to take early retirement or a dishonorable discharge. Even if they were to reconcile, would he really be able to fully trust her? Wouldn't that be distracting while on a mission? "Gee, I wonder if Tiffy is cheating on me again?"Okay, I have to go to a Women's ministry dinner so I won't go into more details on my feelings about Tiffy.

I think we are witnessing the end of THE UNIT. If anyone (hopefully a smart producer) can remember the TV show New York Undercover, you will recall that it started to tank when the female characters were pulled to the forefront and more of the subject matter became "domestic". The appeal of The Unit is that is was more realistic and edgy than anything on TV. This seasons few episodes are nothing more than Desperate Housewives and Emotionally Timid Husbands. The Men of The Unit are quickly becoming emasculated and the topics of Women's Rights, or Equal time...is taking over the success component of the show. While I am sure the female cast are nice people with much to contribute - fine actresses etc. The appeal of this program is the covert combat and danger that "males"/"men" endure in the military. The constant and continual attempt to gender-neutralize the culture like this might sit well with your stock holders, feminists, and the anti-man crowd in Hollywood...but the public you serve doesn't like it...Our culture hungers for REAL MEN and the depiction of such - The 15 seconds of the waify Metro-sexual is over...so let it go or watch your show go the way of NY-Undercover - and everyone will be out of work.Mr. Knowitall