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dagaz_82 wrote: Okay, I know that this won't make some people happy...
You're right. I'm already gagging.

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Re the above post: I can now ask... WTH??????

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Re the above news: I can now ask... WTH?????? Better to make Susan Matus and Kavita Patil series regulars since they have been on regularly. I mean, that's a freakin' NO BRAINER!!!

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That's GREAT news about Nicole!!!!!!!!

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While I certainly agree that the flow of storylines in the first season was my favorite of all, the viewpoints on this board about the writers having to mix things up a bit, because of the changes in public opinion towards combat situations abroad, is a welcome one if it manages to float the series into a few more seasons. While I appreciate the opinion of those who are Unit "Purists", it is a bit like the crappiness of certain books or movies in a trilogy/series... who would rather complain about a certain volume/episode/sequel... than have the idea die at season 4 because core fans can't stomach the transition.I do get the whole idea that all of us are here because we LOVE The Unit, or we wouldn't waste time discussing it. But WOW! There are certainly some heated responses about the awkward changes that have been made lately. Relax, enjoy, comment, but understand that the evolution of the series is to attract a larger fanbase that may ultimately renew the series. If they're smart, they read what we say. We're not a HUGE community here, and they'd be stupid to ignore core fans.Just my $0.02

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Squirrel1772 , I agree. This is just my opinion, but I think the idea behind the addition of the character is sound - it makes sense that a female could help out on some of the missions. I know that some people were worried that she'd tag along on all of the ops, but we've already seen that that's not the case. And it's true that some of the writing for her has been uneven, but now that her status with the show has been solidified, one would think that that would allow the writers to be more consistent with her and develop the character more. As for the purpose of the character - to connect the storylines - I think it's a good idea to make the show more cohesive, as a whole - that makes it more accessible for new viewers. I know that there are people who don't like the character, but there are also a lot of people who do, so Bridget just joins the ranks of the other polarizing characters. So, the situation hasn't been perfect, thus far, but the show and its writers have had to deal with significant changes, as have the fans. It's taken awhile for the writers to get into the groove of things, but I also think that that's because of the story they're trying to tell. I think that all of the issues that have been raised about storylines that don't make all that much sense or seem unnecessary likely all tie into the big, overarching story that we're probably going to start seeing soon (just speculation on my part). That said, I look at this like Squirrel1772 suggested: I love this show, and if it has to undergo some changes (that some people like and some don't) in order to remain on the air, so be it. I know that mileage varies and that everyone's entitled to his or her opinion, but personally, I don't enjoy every single character or aspect of the show, though I'm more than willing to put up with them if it means that the show gets to live on for more seasons.

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Both point of views are well taken. I didn't think of it that way. My shock at Nicole becomming a series regualr is more about how a newcomer makes it to that coveted status after 4 episodes while other recurring cast have been on for the last 3 seasons without the safety of that status. However, both Squirrel and Dagaz make very good points. My thinking is changing on this one.

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Squirrel1772 wrote: While I certainly agree that the flow of storylines in the first season was my favorite of all, the viewpoints on this board about the writers having to mix things up a bit, because of the changes in public opinion towards combat situations abroad, is a welcome one if it manages to float the series into a few more seasons. While I appreciate the opinion of those who are Unit "Purists", it is a bit like the crappiness of certain books or movies in a trilogy/series... who would rather complain about a certain volume/episode/sequel... than have the idea die at season 4 because core fans can't stomach the transition.I do get the whole idea that all of us are here because we LOVE The Unit, or we wouldn't waste time discussing it. But WOW! There are certainly some heated responses about the awkward changes that have been made lately. Relax, enjoy, comment, but understand that the evolution of the series is to attract a larger fanbase that may ultimately renew the series. If they're smart, they read what we say. We're not a HUGE community here, and they'd be stupid to ignore core fans.Just my $0.02
I will watch but I could get into it more if there was not a female. Thee are no females in Special forces.So I have a hard time relating to her and I do not trust her. I still think she could be a plant by the Colonel's Ex-wife Charlotte. She is the leak or it seems that way.Sounds like you know something of this. Maybe a writer or in production. Sorry I do not know all the termsTake Care,Robin.

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Squirrel1772 wrote: While I appreciate the opinion of those who are Unit "Purists", it is a bit like the crappiness of certain books or movies in a trilogy/series... who would rather complain about a certain volume/episode/sequel... than have the idea die at season 4 because core fans can't stomach the transition.
Squirrel1772, I certainly respect your opinion and understand the point you are making, but I do have to make a comment on the above quote about the posters here "complaining." First off, the group of writers that sat down and hashed out their storyline arcs for Season Four had this idea that adding a female character would help the show get better ratings. Well, not every idea that writers come up with are good ones and we're here to tell them so. Second, thank God for people who complain. We could still be using lye soap instead of Dove or Irish Spring or hand washing all our dishes instead of using a dishwasher. And third, I don't believe for one minute that anything we post here is going to have any effect whatsoever on the fate of The Unit --whether it is renewed in 2009 or not. It's the ratings and number of viewers watching the show. And fourth, I think that the people on this board who don't like our complaints don't like it because we disagree with them.

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True, we're not a HUGE fan base, but we are STRONG. The core fan base is still watching every week. It is STILL the best scripted show on TV. It STILL has some of the best talent on board, both in front of the camera and off. I'm just kind of surprised that Nicole became a regular so fast. But then again, what the heck do I know about how the producers think? They may have something incredible planned for this season which I haven't seen yet. I keep hearing episodes 7 and 8 are the biggies. Can't wait!Drat. This week's episode is still 3 full days away. Thsi week is sure going slowly.

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roobaby45 wrote: Both point of views are well taken. I didn't think of it that way. My shock at Nicole becomming a series regualr is more about how a newcomer makes it to that coveted status after 4 episodes while other recurring cast have been on for the last 3 seasons without the safety of that status. However, both Squirrel and Dagaz make very good points. My thinking is changing on this one.
That's an interesting point about the other recurring characters. Obviously I don't know why their status hasn't changed, but I wonder if it's just because that's the nature of the characters - the writers, for whatever reason - think that they aren't needed/can't be used on a full-time basis. Then, too, it could be beneficial for the actors that portray them. While being a series regular would obviously be a career boost for them, their current status allows them to work on TU while also having the opportunity to work on other shows and projects. Also, I completely agree about eps 7 and 8 - I think that (if it doesn't happen before then) those are the eps that might bring together the elements (some of which have caused confusion amongst the fans) from the eps we've seen thus far, and really show us what the big story is this season.

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First off, that's the nature of Show Biz. Especially Film and TV Series. The big guys are always looking for ways to save money and cast is one of those ways.With Nicole, they are trying to up the ratings and attract the younger demographic. If this occurs, it's worth much more then her salary, in terms of how much they can charge sponsors.Just my humble opinion, after working in this biz for most of my working life. I have no problem with her. She is sooooo much better then that American Idol lady in MP's...sheesh!Go Nicole!

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angel_in_la wrote: She is sooooo much better then that American Idol lady in MP's...sheesh!
Gotta agree with you on that singer they had to protect in MP's. She was awful. And besides that, there were not that many Max minutes in that episode to suit me. LOL

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Angel, NOW I remember MPs! Gawd that chick was...never mind I can't say it here. Dagaz, I tend to think that the story arc is much bigger and more comprehensive than what we are getting a taste of now. The guys finally get back to their Army roots and Ryan will get what's coming in 7 and 8. At least, that's what I've heard. November is getting closer! As a matter of fact, so is SUNDAY!

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angel_in_la wrote: First off, that's the nature of Show Biz. Especially Film and TV Series. The big guys are always looking for ways to save money and cast is one of those ways.With Nicole, they are trying to up the ratings and attract the younger demographic. If this occurs, it's worth much more then her salary, in terms of how much they can charge sponsors.Just my humble opinion, after working in this biz for most of my working life. I have no problem with her. She is sooooo much better then that American Idol lady in MP's...sheesh!Go Nicole!
Hi Angel, I figured that and the political correct thing too. But by adding her it is not as accurate as before.I cannot get past "No women in SF" To me it is like cowing down to the system. Plus I think she is part of the leak and for all we know she was a plant from Charlotte, the Colonel's ex-wife.Just a thought.

 
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