CSI: Miami

nooooo I dont want my H with that Julia .She obviously is not a good woman. Well I want him for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never wanted to see Yelina with H. It's too complicated and a little strange I mean she was his brother's wife and had a child with him. Marisol not a good match either although he did care for her and protected her don't think they had that passion. Julia not really sure. I thought of her as a villian and someone who would bring him down originally, but now that her mental illness has been revealed nor really sure what kind of future they could have. H has a definite need to "fix" things. He's also a "protector" I'm a little stumped and I'll have to see things develop a little more between them

Now that we know she is Bi-polar, things are going to get complicated. If the writers stay true to H character form, all he will do is care for and protect Julia because she is technically family. I know problems are going to rise with Kyle being cared for by Julia. The writers may also make Julia his downfall and he won't realize the horrible mistake he has made until it is too late. I do not trust Julia. I do not trust her relationship with Ron Sirus and I know this whole situation is going blow up in H's face when he least expects it. I just pray to god he doesn't go and do something stupid because he was manipulated by Julia. As Tripp would say, "Something is inky".

The Idea of Julia and Horatio "getting back together" as people put it, defies all logic for me. Why is that even an option? She is an unremorseful, evil, criminal character. OK, yes she is bipolar. So what? I expected that to happen. I knew she was sick like that, I really did. I just thought that that would be revealed last spring. And that we would already be through this whole revealing story arch about Julia, that started with the scene in the episode "Raising Caine," where Frank asked Horatio who Julia was, and Horatio looked back at him as if to say "I'm not really sure". I thought she would have fallen by now. At some point her past is going to catch up with her, and it isn't going to be pretty when it does. If the show is keeping up with real life time then Julia has had custody of Kyle for 10 months. I don't think it would take that long for Julia's demons to be revealed, as beginning to be seen in "Bombshell". Therefore, I think it would make sense if the show were lagging behind real life time. Like maybe it is still the spring of 2008. It would help explain those missing months that accrued from the writers' strike and the summer. That is just my thought though.

I realize what I am about to write will cause me to get hate email. But, I would like to see where the writers go with Julia's character. I grew up watching soaps and I loved watching how the writers could take characters to the edge and back and take very dark characters and redeem them. As much as people do not want to hear this, there is room to redeem this character and prove her innocent of her husband's murder and any involvement in Kathleen's Newberry's death. Plus, a good answer to why she left Horatio and Kyle. I think Ron Saris could be at the center of why she left all those years ago and singularly responsible to Kathleen Newberry's death. It has been established that he has know her for some time and his hatred for Horatio seems quite entrenched. Ron Saris seems to have a long standing obsession for Julia. We know that Julia is quite willing to protect Horatio and Kyle. Maybe Ron latched onto her back when she met Horatio. She knew Ron was dangerous then and he theaten to kill Horatio and frame her for some kind of crime. She was probably young to mid-twenties and thought leaving H was the best thing to do to protect him. Later, she finds out she is pregnant. She still hasn't been able to shake Ron. She trys to raise Kyle, but fears for his safety because everytime Ron looks at Kyle he sees Horatio. She decides to leave Kyle with her mother to protect him and then she disappears to get away from Ron. A couple of years later he finds her again and sinks his hooks into her. How could he be doing that: Maybe he has threaten to frame her some kind of crime again. Whatever worked the last time, he did it again.With Kyle being older and in trouble he now can have her indebted to him and trapped. Ron could have been back to threatening to kill Horatio and Kyle and framing her for muder and other crimes. Throw in her need to keep focus because of the bi-polar, you got a woman on the edge. As for her husband's murder, well the man that killed him already knew that Julia had been arrested for the crime and so why not let her take most of the heat of the murder and he could get off on lesser charges. It seems odd that he was quick to give up when Calleigh told him their was no proof. We have seen in all the CSIs that when their is a conspiracy for murder the partner is definitely not going down alone. If she truly put him up to it, then this man from the streets is not going to go down without a fight and especially if he is not alone. This man has lied many times. Why tell the real reason he killed Bill Winston, if he can find another way that can get him lesser chargers and the blame on someone else. Another thought, why blackmail a guest when you have the money to hire a pro? My dear fellow fans,Be kind to me in your hate email. I am tender and I cry easily.

Of course, we should never be anything but kind to our fellow fans. I can tell that you have carefully thought through how Julia may be redeemed. You certainly make a sincere argument with good ideas. Perhaps the best selling point for Horatio and Julia to be together would be to create a nuclear family for dear Kyle. After the heartless foster homes he has been in, he certainly deserves a real family atmosphere. I suppose Julia could rise to the standard. However, so much of why I love Horatio is his great integrity, generosity, and unselfishness. I fear that if Horatio and Julia were to marry, she would get the better deal and Horatio would never have a wife he truly deserves. I still cannot believe she would ever be worthy of the man we love.

I'm not going to send you hate e-mail Boo2221, neither will anyone else, IF THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM...LOL... I agree with you on everything concerning Julia, she is right for Horatio only to create a family for Kyle, but than we have to look at the other side of this family and determine, if Julia and Horatio get together, will it contradict Horatio's character? Yes it will.

I'm sorry, but I just have this aversion to Julia. I see her as a sly, manipulative, arrogant, selfish, piece of work. And if I ever forget that, all I have to do is re-watch "Raising Caine". Her attitude during the entire episode (and in fact almost every time I've seen her) was one of selfish arrogance and I'll never forget that. First impressions are lasting impressions with me, and they did a good job at portraying her as sly, selfish, and especially arrogant in that episode. If they try to change her character, I don't think I'd believe it. She portrayed no kind of emotion for her murdered husband and in fact moved in with another man one week later. That doesn't sound like the act of a grieving widow to me. And then she didn't give one hoot about Kathleen Newberry. No, I really think she is very sly and manipulative. I think the only reason she left Ron is because she realized that Horatio had won the battle, as it were (for the time being anyway). And I could totally see her using anyone and everyone to get what she wanted. Again, all I have to do is re-watch "Raising Caine", and I remember exactly why I feel this way.

Boo2221, I really must agree with your points. We still don't know what happened between H and Julia all those years ago, and we still don't know how Ron fits into Julia's life. Again, I do not trust Julia. I do not trust her involvement with Ron. All I know is H deserves better and he deserves to have his son. When it comes to Julia, I have a bad feeling about her.

As I was looking around our home site, I caught the short video with the interview of David and Elizabeth. Elizabeth mentioned that Julia still loves Horatio. She and David alluded to the idea of Horatio and Julia still having the deep desire to reconnect. I thought about it later and began to get a sinking feeling that the "writing may be already on the wall", as they say, for them to end up together. The producers may be headed that way. I was particularly thinking about the recent episode with Horatio kissing Julia on the head which was both touching and repulsive at the same time. I think I feel a little sick at the idea of Horatio and Julia because I have always seen Horatio deal with many female witnesses and criminals who are beautiful physically but ugly of character. Yet, I always believed that he would never fall in love with any of them because they have no qualities that are attractive to a man like Horatio. I have held Horatio in high esteem (as well as passion), but if he falls in love again with Julia, I don't know if he could be a man (character) I could respect and love. I guess there is a part of me that so much needs to see stories where women of genuine goodness win the love of the hero.

I completely agree. H would only be with a woman who has the same morals and values as himself. Julia is not that woman.

I don't necessarily see Julia as evil and non remorseful. Some of her actions may certainly be questionable even suspect however, there are still things that remain to be seen when it comes to her. Everything has not yet been revealed. I believe also that her bipolar disease most certainly plays a part in her behavior. Does that mean it's an excuse? Not really, but it is a contributing factor. Here's the thing it's like a great line that Calliegh once said in an episode (can't remember name of episode) anyway, she said," Just because you know one thing about a person doesn't mean you know everything". Julia was quiet young during her time with Horatio. She's mid to late 30's, he's early 50's Kyle is 17. That would have made Julia anywhere from 17-19. Still very much emotionally and mentally a child. I think H. may have some underlying guilt about that. Of course he was younger too, but he had more experience than her. Also, she probably carries some resentment because he was "John" then undercover and of course she had no knowledge of that at the time. So she's young pregnant probably experiencing the effects of her disease, Horatio is unattainable; getting the picture?? It wasn't in the cards for them then, perhaps it is now. Julia and Horatio share a history and more importantly they share a child and that is very powerful. They are forever linked through Kyle and now that Horatio is in his llfe there's no getting away from it. We just have to wait and see how things play out for these characters. CSI: Miami writers most certainly will take us on a ride with this story line !

Wow very well put meamee. What you said is very true as well. I still can't quite shake the feeling that she has a hidden agenda or that she is playing both sides. Maybe she plays whatever side that gives her what she wants. She is a survivor and it seems she learned to survive by using and manipulating people. I just don't know how this is going to play out. I am so impatient...I hate waiting!

Meamee, you hit it right on the nose with them too forever being connected. Julia and Horatio share and son, and no matter how hard we don't want them to together, they would have to be around each other because of Kyle. We all know family is the most important thing to Horatio, and no matter who Horatio ends up with, if Julia needs him, Horatio is going to come running. I don't think it is because of his love for her, but it's because she is the mother of his son. She has given Horatio one thing other woman haven't be able to give Horatio (well they all either die or he breaks up with them) and I'm not saying that another woman can not give him a child, I'm just saying Julia was the first, and Horatio will always be there for her.

Oooooo.......... By the way, while you all are typing on this post can you come over to mine and say how much we need to see Kyle and Horatio agian. I am so tortured right now. I just want another story with them.....and another....okay, and another.What can I say, I 'm needy