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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 11:34:41
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suthrndaysi
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The only two I would say is evil are Ace and Randy. But at least Randy is out there. Ace thought he had it won before he got there. His goal was to have the girls swoon over him then chop their heads off later. But he didn't realize that the common folks saw right through it.Good I would say Sugar. She wears her heart on her sleeve. And is genuine. The only one this season.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 11:40:24
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suthrndaysi
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Though I've never played the game and frankly not interested. I agree with the assessment completely. fornaxus wrote: alkikodibear wrote: I have not played dungeons and dragons for years but below is my D&D assessmentsusie & crystal chaotic evil. matty and bob are paladins sugar, ken & charlie chaotic goodcorriene & randy - evil (and proud of it)  I like what you started here, so I'm going to expand upon it. Susie: Chaotic Neutral - Will swing whatever way get's her what she wants, but she doesn't revel in doing the dark deed. Crystal: Neutral Evil - Will backstab, lie, cheat, whatever it takes to be on top. She enjoys screwing with people, and ultimately cares only about herself. Matty: Lawful Good - Yeah, I said it. Lawful Good. He likes being a good guy, keeps his word, and honestly strives for success. His going back for Crystal and Gillian in that first challenge clenched the "good" part. Bob: Lawful Good - This is a no-brainer. Everything we've seen suggests ethics, morals and human warmth. Loyal to the end, even his own. Sugar: Chaotic Good - Honestly sweet person, but can't get a handle on doing "for the tribe". She's definitely out for herself, but she means absolutely no harm in it. Ken: True Neutral - The whole battle of good and evil means very little to him. It's about the game, and while the game has rules, it also has loopholes. He'll exploit them without warning or regret. Charlie: Lawful Neutral - Loyal as all getout, but he's not tied down to doing the right thing. He's tied down by his personal connections, instead. Corinne: Chaotic Neutral - Much like Suzie, she'll do what she has to, regardless of her word, to get ahead, but for all her "owning" the word "bitch", she doesn't take pleasure from others' pain. She's just a bit uppity. Randy: Chaotic Evil - Randy loves the mahem. It's his environment, because in the confusion he's sitting in the shadows, waiting for the right time to backstab, slipping right back into the dark. And what's more, he loves doing it. In other words, he's my favorite to win. 
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 12:40:17
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survivororor
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I HATE Kenny, Crystal, Randy...they are all such negative peopleI LOVE Bob, Matty, Corinne, Sugar...just seem like really nice peopleINDIFFERENT on Charlie, Susie
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 14:34:38
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swan108
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Jeff has repeatedly said that Corinne is the biggest bitch he's ever met to the extent that she's scarey...that's how mean she is. She was recruited to be on the show, never watched any reality tv before (including Survivor) and just reading her interviews gives a good idea of how nasty this girl is. I don't think Jeff and Dalton would continue to talk about how downright nasty this girl is if she wasn't; it's possible through editing we haven't seen the worst of her...yet. But if you watch, there's been enough footage to notice a self absorbed me me me attitude. As a obsessed LOST viewer, i've learned to be trained to pick up on small details. From Jeff's EW Blog after last episode it appears we'll be getting another glimpse of what Corrrine's about when she sees Marcus is gone. He's mentioned that Sugar and Corinne hate each other and "it will be interesting to see how sweet and sour" coexist together....there's your clue to the beginning of Good and Evil. Everything i've read and seen would indicate she is not just a bitch, she's toxic...and is Randy really evil and Matty so good? IMHO, any survivor who's no longer on the show doesn't play into the Good vs Evil theory that Jeff speaks of; they're a mute point now...he spoke of a "good vs evil" scenario going forward, so we're talking about the 9 remaining survivors at this point. And for the record, there are 5 people this year who are actual applicants, the rest are all recruits. Sugar is doing nothing more than acting a part (referring to her own interview) and she sees this as another role to get her face on TV...it's a joke. At least Ace and Randy are actual applicants, as are Crystal, Ken and Susie...Charlie has always been a fan of the show, but he's a recruit too. As a fan of Survivor since season 1, i'd prefer a winner to be an actual fan of the show, someone who has actually applied and is taking this seriously...not someone who was chosen because of the way they look or because someones agent got them the "job". Oops, I missed one, it's actually 6 applicants...GC was also an applicant and not a recruit.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 14:41:35
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homebody3
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Good vs. Evil!! First let's think about the game. They are out there to win a million dollars, not make friends. Second, Crystal has to be the biggest loser so far. Evil maybe, but if she stopped her complaining and did something for the tribe she might be able to go far. Bob is a sweetheart. For someone of his age doing all he can, maybe Crystal should take some lessons. Sugar by far is good, even though she was sent to exile she thought about her team members that they had not eaten and she has. Susie, now there is a bad seed in the bunch. Randy! what could I say that has not already been said? He is so evil!!!! I have a feeling that he will make it to the final three, He thinks he is king out there, and the survivors thought that Ace was a snake? give me a break.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 17:03:30
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iGoBefore
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Good: FangEvil: KotaWhy? Because the animal they showed 'on the way to' Kota is a snake. 'On the way to' Fang, they showed elephants.Obvious, no? 
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 17:45:24
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explorer2008
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In other seasons such as Vanuatu, I can definitely tell you who the evil is, but with this season it's actually pretty hard. So many of them keep on switching off the sides. I would say Matty, but he seems to have more fans than haters. I guess I'm one of his haters for now. Well see how it goes.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 17:57:58
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hockeyson
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swan108 wrote: Jeff has repeatedly said that Corinne is the biggest bitch he's ever met to the extent that she's scarey...that's how mean she is. She was recruited to be on the show, never watched any reality tv before (including Survivor) and just reading her interviews gives a good idea of how nasty this girl is. I don't think Jeff and Dalton would continue to talk about how downright nasty this girl is if she wasn't; it's possible through editing we haven't seen the worst of her...yet. But if you watch, there's been enough footage to notice a self absorbed me me me attitude. As a obsessed LOST viewer, i've learned to be trained to pick up on small details. From Jeff's EW Blog after last episode it appears we'll be getting another glimpse of what Corrrine's about when she sees Marcus is gone. He's mentioned that Sugar and Corinne hate each other and "it will be interesting to see how sweet and sour" coexist together....there's your clue to the beginning of Good and Evil. Everything i've read and seen would indicate she is not just a bitch, she's toxic...and is Randy really evil and Matty so good? IMHO, any survivor who's no longer on the show doesn't play into the Good vs Evil theory that Jeff speaks of; they're a mute point now...he spoke of a "good vs evil" scenario going forward, so we're talking about the 9 remaining survivors at this point. And for the record, there are 5 people this year who are actual applicants, the rest are all recruits. Sugar is doing nothing more than acting a part (referring to her own interview) and she sees this as another role to get her face on TV...it's a joke. At least Ace and Randy are actual applicants, as are Crystal, Ken and Susie...Charlie has always been a fan of the show, but he's a recruit too. As a fan of Survivor since season 1, i'd prefer a winner to be an actual fan of the show, someone who has actually applied and is taking this seriously...not someone who was chosen because of the way they look or because someones agent got them the "job". Wow! This has got to be the best post I've read in a long time! I think that you are right on the money with this one! I totally agree with you about the whole recruits vs. applicants thing. I'm tired of seeing mactors on the show. That's why I've been rooting for Randy and Susie all season. I know they both are big fans of the show. I didn't know about the rest. I'm really shocked that Ace wasn't recruited. He seems like the type of guy who would be recruited. I guess there's a first for everything.~Hockeyson
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 18:03:14
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northofnyc
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cbs-admin2 wrote: Jeff Probst has said that the theme of the second half of the season is Good vs. Evil. Which Survivors do you think are part of the "good" and which ones constitute the "bad?" Hmmm, let me think ..... (I smell smoke!) GOOD: Bob, Ken, Crystal, Susie. EVIL: Jessica, Corinne, Matty, RandyNot sure about Charlie, I think he may swing back and forth between the GOOD and the EVIL, and eventually settle with the dominant group (if he lasts long enough).I wasn't sure about Corinne and Ken either. (I switched both just before posting.)
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 19:14:53
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locotje
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GOOD: Bob, Ken, Crystal, Susie.EVIL: Jessica, Corinne, Matty, Randy Are you serious you actually think that Sugar and Matty are evil and Kenny and Crystal are good whats more you don't know what category Charlie is in,he and Sugar have the biggest heart of them all.pls explain to me why you think Matty and Sugar are evil and Kenny and Crystal are good i dare you because i don't see it at all.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 19:16:00
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ladybhawke
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Well I really don't see any good vs evil going on. I do see ego's being stretched, which after the last tribal council, there will be some really big awakenings amongst a few. I do like the blindsides, as I am always for the underdog, as the original KOTA tribe assumed they had this in the bag. Glad that Sugar pulled the switch when she did. She may not realize it, but Ace would have played that idol and poof, her protection would have been gone and she would have been vulnerable. I am certain her time will come because there is just so much eye candy one can stomach during a season. Marcus' play went to far and it's nice to be around intelligent people, it's another to have them rub your face in it. I like Crystal and Ken, but Crystal needs to mellow just a little, or that will be or downfall. Corrine and Randy I do not care for. Their cocky, stuff doesn't stink attitude just rubs me the wrong way. Matty and Susie, well they are geniune and playing the game the best way they know. I do feel bad for Bob, he put all his eggs in one basket. I hope this move makes him realize that the real power is being a weak player as they slowly oust the strongest players.Next week I would like to see Corrine gone. I don't think I could handle listening to her once they merge.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 19:43:33
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northofnyc
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Locotje wrote: GOOD: Bob, Ken, Crystal, Susie.EVIL: Jessica, Corinne, Matty, Randy Are you serious you actually think that Sugar and Matty are evil and Kenny and Crystal are good whats more you don't know what category Charlie is in,he and Sugar have the biggest heart of them all.pls explain to me why you think Matty and Sugar are evil and Kenny and Crystal are good i dare you because i don't see it at all. I wasn't commenting on who I think are good and evil now (based on previous events). I was predicting who I think may fall within the two groups from here on. Besides, attributes which I see as good may be considered evil by others and vice-versa, so who's to say, really, what is good or evil.I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 21:00:21
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terrie17
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Good - Charlie who is a very likable guy. He holds his own in the challenges and is loyal to the alliance. He is also even-tempered and unlike a lot of survivors has not shown any minutes yet when lets circumstances get to him enough to turn into a total ass. Sugar has easily blended in with whatever team members she has been around. She has not made enemies but she seems fiesty enough to hold her own if she does. Sugar is one contestent who has not lost focus of how to win the game. It really looks like she is keeping sight of the big picture and doing what is best for Sugar without being too obvious about it. One uncommon thing she has going for her is that she is one of the very few who remembers just what it takes to get those final votes at the end of the game.Bob - How could anyone not like Bob? He is an all-around good guy and does very well at the challenges. He does not seem overly worried about whether he wins which is a great asset when everyone around him is looking at their competition as the enemy and painting a target on each of them.Ken - He is a good guy. He's not a quitter and genuinly seems to want to be everyones friend.Matty - He's another good guy. He's strong physically and a strong personality. He is probably the most dependable person on the show.Evil - OMG Crystal is the very definition of the word evil. She's Ace with more hair and height. She has no idea how to play the game and somehow decided her own "sweet" nature was better than figuring it out. She is about the most useless tribe member I have ever seen. In most of the physical challenges she has done more harm than good. Stabbing others in the back does not get you far without a strong alliance. I am thankful that she has no chance of getting to the end since she could only win individual challenges if it was a game of solitaire. She is one who enjoys other's problems and I don't think that is far from her true self.Corinne -she would turn on any one of them in a second. Not dependable, not likable and would have been gone by now if not for her alliance.Randy - He's really annoying and moody. He is arrogant to the extreme. I would vote him off just to get him to shut up.Suzi - She is someone that should not have made it as far as she has anyhow. Talks way to much, says nothing important and pretty useless.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 21:28:08
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navel_lint
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You tell ME. Which image is good which is evil? They are both the same image only edited in different ways.Which way will the remaining players be edited to fufill your role? I beleive the bottom image is more accurate. You removed the boards that everyone loved, you tease us with application processes and then recruit, you stop giving us any photos that are from recent episodes (and even when you did they were crappy shots) and now you attempt to use your pathetic propaganda to make a boring season seem as if it will improve-and so far it hasn't.Here ends Navel's rant.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 11/08/2008 22:26:08
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mijosta
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Hahaa! That is cool... no matter how many wings and angels you put around it, CBS is still evil!
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