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I disagree with the last poster. One of the main writers has actually already explained the dynamic operating here. Remember that a lot of what is unique about this show is drawn from the real life experiance of the writers who watched their uniquely brilliant friends dealing with the social setting. Right now both Penny and Leonard have backed away- because they have to. Looking for formulaic sitcom 'chemistry' is simply inappropriate. Leonard has backed off because the first try blew up. He will wait a while and then try again. Meanwhile, in the words of one of the shows creators "Penny has not yet figured out that the Leonards of this world are a lot better for her than the Biffs. But she will get there eventually." In fact the dynamic here is fairly simple: Neither Penny nor Leonard are ready for each other. They both need to grow and learn things before they are. I think this is great- both far more interesting and far more true to life. And for those reasons a whole lot funnier than a standard sitcom romance.

Jannessica wrote: Actually I would LOVE for Sheldon and Leslie Winkle to get together...how awesome would that be?

That would be hilarious, my girlfriend and I didn't like each other when we first met. Although we weren't sniping at each other, there was definitely some animosity.But after our boss took us out for lunch we ended up spending more time with each other. Now it's almost 15 years later, married and two kids.

hafretheim wrote: Neither Penny nor Leonard are ready for each other. They both need to grow and learn things before they are. I think this is great- both far more interesting and far more true to life. And for those reasons a whole lot funnier than a standard sitcom romance.

I respectfully disagree. Sorry. I like Leonard, I do, and I like Penny. I just don't like them together. I agree they both need to grow, but that's certainly not gonna affect their relationship if the writers keep having them spend so little time together. And while growth is good and true to life, let's be honest here, this isn't Dawson's Creek. It's a sitcom. A sitcom that is not very true to life in alot of aspects, and it's absurdity is part of what makes it hilarious. And I also disagree about it not being a standard sitcom romance. Of course it is. Guy meets girl, likes her, pines for her, it helps if she is out of his league. This can also be reversed with genders. Will they won't they...Yadda yadda yadda. It's very typical. Which to me would be fine if I thought the two actors had the necessary chemistry. I don't think they do, and that's huge in trying to sell this whole "meant to be, even if thats not right now" thing. I also don't get what they see in each other besides Leonard thinks she is hot, she thinks he is nice because all she knows is jerks. Is that it? YAWN. Maybe if the writers had them interact more, but so far most of her screen time is with Sheldon.And now with the whole "I can't date Leonard because he is smarter than me" was blown out of the water by Penny dating the hunky scientist dude, it will be interesting to see where the writers take it. What is keeping them apart now? She obviously wasn't put off by the other guy's smarts. So that's interesting. I just don't want to see the writers try and scrounge to think of another silly reason to keep them apartI see a friendship connection. That's about all I see. Sorry to disagree, but I do.

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I was afraid Penny dating Leonard would mess up the show. When the audience wants a relationship to happen and tunes in each week to see if it occurs, once it does, the audience is satisfied and there is really no reason to watch. There have been too many good shows ruined when the leads gets romantically involved. I really liked the way they just stayed friends in season 2. They satisfied the what if question without screwing with the chemistry. That being said, I think that there can be a few dating possibilities that could enhance the show without risk. 1) Sheldon and Leslie 2) Raj and Sheldon's sister, Missy and 3) Penny and Howard. If they break up no big disaster, but if they date, there is plenty of material that could be hillarious. Of coarse, my husband wants Penny and Sheldon to hook up for a one nighter, but that is a guy for you.

ew, sheldon and leslie better not happen. he HATES her. i mean, him and penny fight a lot sure, but at least he has some semblance of respect for her. sheldon being in any kind of relationship is a stretch, but he could never be with someone that constantly insults and belittles him and his work. i think sheldon being with anyone who would try to compete with him intellectually is a recipe for disaster. it's why he and ramona didn't work. she was a scientist too. she wanted credit. we all know how that turned out.and penny/howard wouldn't work either. she's said several times she thinks he is disgusting. raj and sheldon's sister might be cute though. i really just don't see the chemistry between penny and leonard. it feels awkward and forced in their "romantic" scenes. i like them much better as friends, when leonard isn't falling over himself trying to impress her. if they end up together in the end it will be WAY too cliche.

I don't think this show needs a romance. i just adore their(4guys+penny) friendship.

neverlaura wrote: ew, sheldon and leslie better not happen. he HATES her. i mean, him and penny fight a lot sure, but at least he has some semblance of respect for her. sheldon being in any kind of relationship is a stretch, but he could never be with someone that constantly insults and belittles him and his work. i think sheldon being with anyone who would try to compete with him intellectually is a recipe for disaster. it's why he and ramona didn't work. she was a scientist too. she wanted credit. we all know how that turned out.

Make no mistake about it, I am NOT a Sheldon and Leslie supporter. Some see their interaction as haing a sexual tension to it, but I don't. They practically loathe each other, and not in a "I-loathe-you-but-secretly-wil l-jump-yo - r-bones" kind of way. The show basically put out there that the two of them being a coupld won't happen, because if Leslie can't make a go of it with Leonard due to a difference regarding string theory or whatnot, how could it EVER work with Sheldon? Pus the idea of those two squicks me out. Pare that with Leslie and Leonard having way more chemistry, and well, you know how I feel.If the show does do a couple, I would actually like to see Sheldon with Penny. Maybe it's because of how well the two actors work together, or maybe because I sense more chemistry between them then with Leonard, or maybe because I think it would be a more interesting and funny storyline, but there it is. Yes, I know some people say he is incapable of a relationship, but I can't believe the show will have him be that way forever, and as the show is going along you can see he is sloooowly changing a bit and its mainly due to Penny's influence. Besides, he HAS admitted she is attractive in at least one incidence("no one can be this attractive and skilled at video games" during Halo night) so we get that he at least finds her physically attractive. And at least for me, when Penny and Sheldon bicker they have more respect for each other and "tension" then he ever does bickering with Leslie. Leslie and Sheldon's bickering is full of vitrol. When Penny and Sheldon were fighting in the Panty Pinata ep, I thought "are they gonna start making out mid fight or what?" Maybe I am crazy, but I could see that happen.Leslie and Sheldon--no.Howard and Penny--hell no. LOL.Raj and Penny--yeah, no.Probably it will be the Leonard and Penny paring in the end, but to me that's a giant snoozefest. I guess, if thats the way they go, no romance for anyone would be preferable.

chunkmonk81 wrote:

neverlaura wrote: ew, sheldon and leslie better not happen. he HATES her. i mean, him and penny fight a lot sure, but at least he has some semblance of respect for her. sheldon being in any kind of relationship is a stretch, but he could never be with someone that constantly insults and belittles him and his work. i think sheldon being with anyone who would try to compete with him intellectually is a recipe for disaster. it's why he and ramona didn't work. she was a scientist too. she wanted credit. we all know how that turned out.

Make no mistake about it, I am NOT a Sheldon and Leslie supporter. Some see their interaction as haing a sexual tension to it, but I don't. They practically loathe each other, and not in a "I-loathe-you-but-secretly-wil l-jump-yo - r-bones" kind of way. The show basically put out there that the two of them being a coupld won't happen, because if Leslie can't make a go of it with Leonard due to a difference regarding string theory or whatnot, how could it EVER work with Sheldon? Pus the idea of those two squicks me out. Pare that with Leslie and Leonard having way more chemistry, and well, you know how I feel.If the show does do a couple, I would actually like to see Sheldon with Penny. Maybe it's because of how well the two actors work together, or maybe because I sense more chemistry between them then with Leonard, or maybe because I think it would be a more interesting and funny storyline, but there it is. Yes, I know some people say he is incapable of a relationship, but I can't believe the show will have him be that way forever, and as the show is going along you can see he is sloooowly changing a bit and its mainly due to Penny's influence. Besides, he HAS admitted she is attractive in at least one incidence("no one can be this attractive and skilled at video games" during Halo night) so we get that he at least finds her physically attractive. And at least for me, when Penny and Sheldon bicker they have more respect for each other and "tension" then he ever does bickering with Leslie. Leslie and Sheldon's bickering is full of vitrol. When Penny and Sheldon were fighting in the Panty Pinata ep, I thought "are they gonna start making out mid fight or what?" Maybe I am crazy, but I could see that happen.Leslie and Sheldon--no.Howard and Penny--hell no. LOL.Raj and Penny--yeah, no.Probably it will be the Leonard and Penny paring in the end, but to me that's a giant snoozefest. I guess, if thats the way they go, no romance for anyone would be preferable.

i agree with everything you said. and in the first episode sheldon said "there's a beautiful woman naked in our shower" so he obviously thinks she's attractive. and he jerks it, so he's not TOTALLY asexual. i just think women are like, on the bottom of his list of priorities.

Expecting sexual tension in the relationship at this early stage is a no go for me. Leonard is only beginning to value Penny as a whole, and not just because she's pretty. Similarly, Penny isn't really interested in Leonard because at the moment she sees him as just a friend. If the writers just threw them together without any development, the show would get shot down. These people are from two different social sectors and for them to build a happy romantic relationship I think they really need to develop as people and get to know each other. So, potentially I have a lot of hope for Lenny. I definately don't want it to be a Ross/Rachel thing - I think they need to be just friends before they can move the relationship on.

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Oh my god I was drunk last nite... But still have the same ideas and will keep it in my mind ))

jozertech wrote: I wish I would have hit Penny... But if I can not I would love to see Leonard to represent me By the way why the hell you guys put a f....ng indian on the show? That ruins the quality of the show...

And I'm pretty sure your racist rhetoric ruins the quality of this message board. But we can't all have our way, now can we?

arent there moderators to edit-out jackasses like him ??no....maybe better yet, let people like him speak all they wantreveal their true colors. what i cant believe is there are still people in the world like himespecially, from the words in his posting, probably a younger personah well, after reading that, we all moved up the food chain a notch or two !

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