Xzonia- You super Rock!! i am very impressed with your braininess *bows down* I knew the acid thing would work, i'm just not smart enough to figure it out, so thanks for that!! About numbers fitting anything in life if you look hard enough, i agree, it can be done to scary conclusions. I think it falls in line with the idea that, i forget who said it and i'm paraphrasing, a person can make the logic fit the conclusion instead of the conclusion fitting the logic. In other words, logic can be forced to make ANYthing sound rational. I think that's why i find this show so appealing, these killers have rationalized brutatlity, somewhere along the line, they lost the ability that most humans have to know the difference of right and wrong through their gut/emotional base. It's the primal bases that makes us kill and also the one that makes us know it's bad... not the logic. Example: Logically/rational: Stealing is wrong, there is no other conclusion. Gut based: Stealing to save yourself from starving is acceptable. Stealing a car to get to work on time is wrong. Stealing a car to get to the hospital before a loved one dies... acceptable/unacceptable? This one is a little more vague. My gut says it's acceptable, how about yours? Which i guess, is why we have juries...