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car_1984
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hunterzma82 wrote: I am honestly not trying to be ugly here, but has anyone noticed how scary Mrs. Chancelor's hands look?? I know it probably has alot to do with her old age, but sheesh! Those things are monster-like and those long talons really don't flatter them ATALL! My husband and I noticed around the time all that stuff with her and Marge was going on...
I noticed them a long time ago. I posted about them before....her hands really do show her age. Her hands are ugly, plain and simple!
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car_1984
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wolfsgirl wrote: 
Here's a photo of her from the "Twilight Zone: The Lonely." As you can see, she had long, black hair here... Here's a second photo from the same show. You can see the future "Mrs. C." in this shot...

Amazing, huh? wolfy
Wow, that doesn't even look like her!
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I figure its just a part of aging and leave it at that. And as for waving them around, get up early in the morning and flip through half a dozen info-mercials and all of them do the exact same thing. Hands are always held above the waist and always waving around. It's kind of amusing...
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/09/2009 18:30:53
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Nostalgialyn wrote: Mrs. C had surgery in the past on her face and now it's time to have surgery on her hands.
Why for crying out loud?? She's 80 years old and entitled to every blinkin wrinkle ! Hopefully this " currency" people get for being "youthful" runs it's course because we're all going to get to Jeanne Cooper's age eventually........if we are lucky. Are we going to like it if required to have facelifts and hand surgery ......just to be accepted? I hope not!
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/09/2009 18:45:10
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momone3 wrote: smokeyjune1 wrote:
wolfsgirl wrote: If you go to this web address, about three minutes into the same Twilight Zone show you'll see the great Jeanne Cooper (aka Mrs. C) from stem to stern. You can really tell it's her when she turns away from the man on the street. She just has that "Mrs. C" look. As for her having naturally black hair, she's always said that she's part Native American, so it's quite possible that she's got very straight, beautiful black hair... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =spDcxZDGfWA&feature=rela t ed wolfy Wolf: I found this picture of her from that Twlight Episode, it took me forever to figure out how to put it on here and Idon't know how to make it bigger. But there is Mrs. C back in the day. She could give all these young girls on the show now a run for their money!!!!

I clicked on this picture and it went to full screen. I really looked at it. I don't really see Mrs. Cooper in it. But I think I see Nikki. LOL I don't see her son either in real life Corbin Berson.
I clicked on it too. she's stunning
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/09/2009 18:57:25
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thank you that was a great epi with dan duryea and other old actors in there. love that show too. oh and mrs c was quite beautiful
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/09/2009 20:40:34
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lubdub wrote: Nostalgialyn wrote: Mrs. C had surgery in the past on her face and now it's time to have surgery on her hands.
Why for crying out loud?? She's 80 years old and entitled to every blinkin wrinkle ! Hopefully this " currency" people get for being "youthful" runs it's course because we're all going to get to Jeanne Cooper's age eventually........if we are lucky. Are we going to like it if required to have facelifts and hand surgery ......just to be accepted? I hope not! ============================== ====================== Actually, lub, Jeanne had scheduled herself a facelift, and Bill Bell asked her if she wanted to put it on the air. They discussed it with the doctor who was doing the actual surgery, and he stated that they could film it if they wished (they had to make sure they didn't show a lot of blood and such, though, this being daytime television). The show actually showed Jeanne, as Katherine Chancellor, going to the hospital and entering the surgical room, being prepped with surgical cloths, having her face sterilized, etc. while lying on the gurney, then the doctor came and they put her to sleep and he began his incisions on her face along the jawline and around the ears (which is where they would pull the skin back to tighten it and then sew it back up, and in high society or Hollywood, if a woman had "lumps" behind her ears, it was usually because she'd had a lift). They even showed the doctor taking a long, metal rod to scrape the skin from the muscle (or loosen it, I'm not sure which) and use it on her face during the surgery. That made me cringe, thinking how it would feel later on. Ow!! After it was over, they showed her going to recovery, and when she had recovered enough to talk and move, they handed her a mirror on the show and had her look at her "new face." It was something amazing and considered "ground-breaking television" at the time, because even doctor programs didn't show surgeries as they were happening. Bell won an award, I believe, for this storyline. It took place in 1984. The following is a photo of Jeanne, as Katherine, looking in the mirror after her surgery wolfy  Katherine's Face-lift! (CBS)
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/10/2009 11:10:20
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wolfsgirl wrote: lubdub wrote: Nostalgialyn wrote: Mrs. C had surgery in the past on her face and now it's time to have surgery on her hands.
Why for crying out loud?? She's 80 years old and entitled to every blinkin wrinkle ! Hopefully this " currency" people get for being "youthful" runs it's course because we're all going to get to Jeanne Cooper's age eventually........if we are lucky. Are we going to like it if required to have facelifts and hand surgery ......just to be accepted? I hope not! ============================== ====================== Actually, lub, Jeanne had scheduled herself a facelift, and Bill Bell asked her if she wanted to put it on the air. They discussed it with the doctor who was doing the actual surgery, and he stated that they could film it if they wished (they had to make sure they didn't show a lot of blood and such, though, this being daytime television). The show actually showed Jeanne, as Katherine Chancellor, going to the hospital and entering the surgical room, being prepped with surgical cloths, having her face sterilized, etc. while lying on the gurney, then the doctor came and they put her to sleep and he began his incisions on her face along the jawline and around the ears (which is where they would pull the skin back to tighten it and then sew it back up, and in high society or Hollywood, if a woman had "lumps" behind her ears, it was usually because she'd had a lift). They even showed the doctor taking a long, metal rod to scrape the skin from the muscle (or loosen it, I'm not sure which) and use it on her face during the surgery. That made me cringe, thinking how it would feel later on. Ow!! After it was over, they showed her going to recovery, and when she had recovered enough to talk and move, they handed her a mirror on the show and had her look at her "new face." It was something amazing and considered "ground-breaking television" at the time, because even doctor programs didn't show surgeries as they were happening. Bell won an award, I believe, for this storyline. It took place in 1984. The following is a photo of Jeanne, as Katherine, looking in the mirror after her surgery wolfy  Katherine's Face-lift! (CBS)
Thanks for the update and the picture. I was aware that Jeanne Cooper's "procedure" become part of the S.L. but since this was before my time, I didn't actually see it............a great idea for a flashback if they would ever show it again (lol). I accept the desire for some people to be "refreshed"........f ace, chest ( they ***'d the common word for mammery glands) & any manner of "lifts". I also accept that some may want work done on their hands and should be able to do so if they want. What I took exception to was Jeanne Coopr "needing" to get her hands fixed at the age of 80. Some people look upon "the ware and tear" of life that is shown in our hands as beautiful. Why did our society start to hold "age" in such low esteem.....as if the wealth of knowlege / wisdom our elders hold is worthless? We should be tapping into this wealth. The knarled hands (like Jeanne's) show us where to drill.
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Nostalgialyn wrote: Mrs. C had surgery in the past on her face and now it's time to have surgery on her hands.

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So glad to see so many people defending Jeanne Cooper. She looks great for her age. Most people her age are sitting in rocking chairs. She is my hero. I hope I look as good and have as much enegy and zest for life as she does when I am 80.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 05/10/2009 22:01:12
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Here! Here! Heck, my hands look that bad now and Im half her age. Beauty fades... the good we do with our hands, never does. Ive decided to flale my hands more. marqui wrote: So glad to see so many people defending Jeanne Cooper. She looks great for her age. Most people her age are sitting in rocking chairs. She is my hero. I hope I look as good and have as much enegy and zest for life as she does when I am 80.
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I believe that a lot of the "banning" of elderly people and their opinions came about in the 1960s when we had the hippie movement and we stated that we should "never trust anyone over 30." Oh, how we've come to hate saying that, right? The days of plastic surgery and staying young has been completely pushed onto Americans hard since the 1970s, when the "swingers"wanted to stay young and beautiful (think "Stepford Wives," among others). Hollywood started asking for younger and younger women to play on the silver screen, and suddenly women over the age of 40 were asked to play grandmothers or elderly wives, the non-married, old aunts or spinsters. They believed that no one would want to see a woman over the age of 40 onscreen in any kind of love scene, as the leading lady of the romantic couple or as a sex symbol for the age. Youth was in, old was out. More and more women turned to plastic surgery to lift sagging skin, tighten cheeks and jawlines, pull up those drooping blobs that were once perky and upright. Even the bottom of things were tucked, tightened and hardened. Jane Fonda took out a couple of ribs so that she could make her waistline smaller with plastic surgery, thus making it look as though she had a great body for someone over 40 in her exercise tapes. Now women over 40 started fighting back, but with exercise tapes and big hair and oversized shoulder pads. Yes, the 1980s were known for this because of a beautiful young woman who had water splashed all over her body in a little movie called "Flashdance." If she hadn't done that, women probably would have sat around, drinking their wine and wondering which doctor was the best one to go to for their next lift... As it is, there is more plastic in the faces and bodies of the women of Hollywood today than you could ever get at a Tupperware party. Fat lips, fuller cheeks, plumper foreheads, all in the name of "beauty." If only they'd realize that they looked so much nicer before all that plastic screwed up their faces so badly... wolfy
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Wolfy, wolfsgirl wrote: I think she has beautiful hands. When Ithink of someone's hands, I see the beauty in them. Like my mom's hands, for instance. When she was about 18 she went on a carnival ride in England, one of those rocket rides. The seatbelt was broken and the door latch wasn't hooked properly and she came out as the ride spun from the top toward the bottom. As it was going up again, she was hanging on to the seatbelt for her life. It came down again and she hit her leg on the corner of the platform, gashing it open. As the rocket went up again, the force of it threw her the length of the fair and she landed near the entrance gate. She said that her friend was screaming to stop the ride before she flew off and when she came to there were people around her, including her friend. She said she got up and tried to walk away because she was embarrassed that her skirt had hiked up to her thighs and a woman screamed, "Aaaah! Look at her leg, look at her leg!" My mom said that the meat of her calf was hanging down and it had been cut to the bone. She had slid on her right side across the gravelled grounds and scarred her face, hands, arm and side pretty badly, but you wouldn't notice it now. She has little blue circles on her hands where she sometimes gets gravel out to this day from her hands and a small square of bluish lines on her face near her right eye on her cheek. She's got a pretty good scar on her leg, but since she always had beautiful legs, no one ever seemed to notice those scars. To me, her hands were always beautiful. She hated them because to her they were scarred and ugly, but to me they were amazing. They could hold me, calm me when I was frightened, wipe my tears, spank me when Iwas naughty, hug me when I was sad, show me how to knit, write my name, change my child's diapers, do housework, hold my father's hand when he was ill with cancer and Alzheimer's, feed him, caress him, comb our hair, pat my cheek, feel my forehead when I was sick, and just generally make me feel loved. Those hands were clasped in prayer when I was near death in the hospital, clapped for me when I won a prize for speech, and wiped tears of joy away when I graduated, married and had children of my own. Those hands are still there for me to hold and get hugs from, and even though they are nearly 80 years old themselves, they are the most beautiful hands in the world. The hands of the elderly are the most amazing hands you will ever know, just as the hands of the newborn babies are the most precious. Learn to respect and love those hands, for they will know more in their lifetime than you will, and they have earned every line, wrinkle and knob, and I swear, if my hands look as good as Jeanne Coopers, or my mother's hands, when I am their age (should I live that long), I will be the most happy person in the world. Ilove your hands, ladies. They are truly as beautiful as you are... wolfy
This has got to be the most beautiful post I have ever seen on this board. It brought tears to my eyes. What a beautiful tribute. I've been reading some pretty ugly stuff on this board, but this is a beautiful, priceless image you have created. Thanks for the time you took to post this!
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