DEshipper wrote: Yep I agree with Feerie. I don't think it's unfair.It's refreshing and I can't wait to see Medina as the leader of the team, even for a few episodes. [ Apple_1973 , you are right. we need more Danny ( and more D/E ) ]

apple_1973 wrote: I like Jack, don't get me wrong. But if they keep focusing so much on his character, we'll never get more Danny or D/E. Just like last season, we didn't have any Danny storylines or any follow up on D/E. And this was because the focus was soley on Jack, with a little Sam thrown in.

JSRforever wrote: Life will change for him because he willingly offered Sam to be there for her and the baby. Even, one of the exec. producers says Jack will redeem himself as a parent by being there for Sam and her baby.

JenniFF wrote: I hope that means we get to see some time with Hanna and Kate. I always get a kick of when they visit the offices. Especially since Kate seems to want Jack to be happy - as well as the way she giggles at the thought of spending time with Danny, too.

JSRforever wrote: As for the lack of storyline continuity, its showrunners/executive producers Nash and Walker must be doing what the network wants since they continue working at the helm. I look forward to season 7 and season 8 .

lovineric wrote: I still love the show and wouldn't miss an episode but viewers are turning off in droves so there is something wrong. Just what that is everyone will have their own opinion and that is for another thread to discuss.The show peaked in Season 3 with an audience of almost 18.7 viewers entering the top 10 at #8. The following year although it dipped slightly to just over 18.5m it achieved a peak rating of #7.Then in S5 the figures plummeted to 14.7m as it dropped to #16 and last year it only held on to a top 20 placing by the skin of its teeth with an audience of 13.1m.Obviously with the advance of the internet, television viewing figures are mostly dropping across the board but the significant factor is that WaT is dropping faster in relative terms so there surely have to be serious questions asked?I really hope you're right in thinking there will be a S8.

malonespade wrote: The drop in ratings didn't help with the shift to Sunday night, and the ratings for the Crossover episodes were something in the 20-22 million, so I don't think it's done and dusted yet.

lovineric wrote: The programme was still on Thursday for S5 so there has to be some major reason but WHAT?

JSRforever wrote: I certainly have no problems having the writers focus more on Jack and Samantha, especially since its creator Hank Steinberg wrote their backstory due to its actor natural chemistry. I've always gotten the impression that their relationship and their work in missing person's unit were parallel. Therefore, I have no issues with it being Without A Trace: The Jack Malone Show co-starring Sam Spade

sophia12589 wrote: No I don't think it is unfair. In real life, he would have been fired. I am tired of all his personal angst. Who really cares now? The entire show is about his problems and it's time for all of that to stop. It's boring. Also, it seems as if Jack and Samantha are the only ones on the show. For goodness sake, this character has already slept with Jack and Martin. Is it time for her to sleep with Danny? I realize that sex sells, but I thought this show was about finding people, not about Jack. The only thing I can see that this character contributes is violating people's right and roughing everyone up. If a public official treated me the way Jack treats some of the character on this show, I would sue the organization. Also, his haircut looks like hell.

IluvMartin wrote: Are you kidding? What kind of a STUPID QUESTION is this??? I think this is why the show's ratings have dropped! Enough with this guy and his issues. He's ridiculously out of line and I'm tired of having my intelligence and tolerance for all things Jack tried and tried. If it weren't for the OTHER CAST MEMBERS - yeah, remember those? I'd have so been gone from this show. I hope TPTB get their act together and KEEP STEVEN WEBBER ON 4EVER!!

IluvMartin wrote: Are you kidding? What kind of a STUPID QUESTION is this??? I think this is why the show's ratings have dropped! Enough with this guy and his issues. He's ridiculously out of line and I'm tired of having my intelligence and tolerance for all things Jack tried and tried. If it weren't for the OTHER CAST MEMBERS - yeah, remember those? I'd have so been gone from this show. I hope TPTB get their act together and KEEP STEVEN WEBBER ON 4EVER!!

trupac31 wrote: I think Jack could care less as he now have the opportunity to be with Sam as he is no longer her supervisor.

kagomeasha wrote: I think Jack could care less as he now have the opportunity to be with Sam as he is no longer her supervisor.

I disagree, Jack's job is his life and taking orders is not! He is going to butt heads with Medina, no doubt. But, that is when Jack is at his best!

mgv57 wrote: Great discussion ! First : Danny came out of the ambush...have you ever seen him asking : hey ! How are you doing ?How could he let him joing him in the search immediately after what he had been through with Martin ( since Jack seemed to be like a father for Danny, just like Viv is a "mother" ) AND he got angry with him when Danny shot at the doctor...Okay Danny was definetely wrong...but , how he was feeling a few hours after the ambush. Jack seemed so cold to me..I didn't expect that.Secondly : when the kid wanted to blow up the school...How could he treat him that way at the end...without AT LEAST asking him : why did you act like that ? -

Third : Why did he go to the court with Elena ? and not Danny

Four : do you remeber when Sam hit those two guys ? ( season 3 : the episode of the bus full of students who were kidnapped ) Well we saw her with doc Harris ( where has she gone ? ) twice ....Danny and Martin got out of that ambush...have you ever seen doc Harris talking to them ?When Danny told Jack in the car : only Malone can make mistakes..." Well...he was not wrong...

I did miss the Jack of the first three seasons, I DO miss the team of the first three seasons...With season four everything has changed TOO MUCh, and in fact there were always Jack and Sam....but the team is : jack, Sam, Martin, Viv, Danny and Elena...

If they do not keep the balance and do not pay attention to the stories...of course they lose audience...Lots of good stories were lost along the way...Never seen a good scene between Danny and Elena saying : okay...let's just be friends ...Never seen Danny opening up with Viv again....Never seen Danny and Martin talking about theri experience....They must keep in mind that there are other characters in this show and not only Jack and Sam ( they are defineteky good...but...they appear a bit too much...)

Not to defend Jack, but he was protecting Danny from doing something stupid with CarlosYes. I can agree...but I NEVER EVER think Danny would shoot at someone's back..Then I think he was right to keep him at gun point..if I remember the scene well....Carlos was holding a gun in his hand while talking to Elena, he was quite out of his mind, what if Carlos would shoot at Elena ? I think Danny knew this kind of men, and he was expecting something bad to come out suddenly like , maybe had happened with his dad and his mom ( which we are not allowed to know, since we knew very little about his past, if we knew something is thanks to his brother...btw: is he is prison or not ? ) jack did good telling him not to shoot, but I do not think he would have...but that's just my opinion.I was smiling when I read about not to fratenize if you are cooworkers....I am lucky I live in Italy...You see people shaking hands, hugging, spending time together, okay you do not hug in public...but a very warm handshake and a storng friendly clap on your coworker's shoulder...In fact, the professional "coldness " between them astonishes me a bit...( And I live in the North of Italy, that is :I am quite a cold person as well...but not to that point...)

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/269688.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/269688.page GMT For someome whose Mother tongue isn't English, mgv57 I think your posts are great and I have no trouble understanding themAs someone who is English speaking I feel a bit ashamed that so few of us bother to learn other languages. I certainly couldn't post on a foreign board.Kagomeasha has answered a lot of the points. I agree that there were an awful lot of possible storylines in Season 4 which could have been made more of, most of which you mention.Danny's attitude to Martin confuses me. Most say it is "survivor's guilt" at the beginning but I just can't fathom out why he was so reluctant to help Martin when he learned of his tablets addiction. First he made a half-hearted attempt to talk to him but was happy not to push it, then he really had to be pushed into helping him by Sam.I agree that S4 was just not as good as S1-3 but I don't think it was that much worse. For me it really went downhill with S5. Apart from the complete mess they made of Jack's character I actually thought S6 improved a bit.Apparently Hank Steinberg said at one stage that the set was so small that it was very difficult to get all the actors in when they had a team scene so when Elena arrived this must have made it so much worse and it could possibly be part of the explanation why we don't get these scenes anymore.Just such a scene in S7 Ep 1 showed us how much we miss them.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/272153.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/272153.page GMT I do agree with you loveineric ( thanks for what you wrote about my English... I do hope it is as good as you say ) You know, the feeling I got by reading all the emails in this forum and in others is....everyone is quite confused by the attitude of the characters...I,too, was quite puzzled by Danny's attitude towards Martin, and ( I repeat ) I find it hard to believe he NEVER EVER went to see him...But , like you, I was surprised when he almost "refused" to help him in his addiction, since he does know what addiction is like...That's why I began to follow the episodes with less attention ( even because I usually do three things at a time...I am quite a busy person...)I still follow the episodes and I always will, I do hope to have a little time to watch the dvds with more attention...( even if I know that that means...to find more and more mistakes and things that do not work...) but when you see that they begin very good stories, then they drop them , that the story has not a good continuity, that the interaction between them doesn't almost exist ...( I agree...there are a lot of them now...) I certainly do not stay in my armchair , stuck to the tv to watch the show...Where is their friendship, their teasing each other, their intimacy ? I do miss that ( above all Danny and Martin together, they were great ! ) and I see I am not the only one. It is not just : Loving Danny or Loving Martin or Jack....they are greater if they are together...

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/273290.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/273290.page GMT Jack Malone makes the show what it is!! It doesn't feel right he's now a back seat driver. Having him answer to his team, and this other guy, is totally embarrassing!! So, yes, i think what has happened to jack Malone, is wrong!! It breaks my heart!Now, seeing Martin being put in charge when this other guy goes away......is just wrong! I would stop watching the show, but i have been watching since the show 1st came on the air. It's one of my favorite shows.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/309784.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/309784.page GMT I can't comment on a lot of this because I don't even watch the show anymore. It used to be one of my favorites and I never missed an episode - but once it became the "Jack Malone show" and he was over-acting every week, I just couldn't watch anymore. Sam and Martin were a good, and believable, couple; we're supposed to believe that she would get back together with Jack?! And what happened to Sam and Martin anyway? What happened to Jack's pregnant girlfriend? They were moving in together and then suddenly she was gone. I'm not sure if I missed an episode during that time because I was starting to lose patience with the show. I ended up liking all of the other characters more than Jack but their storylines were always too short and never really finished. What happened to Danny and Elena? It's like their relationships start but then they go nowhere. And Jack was constantly sticking his nose in where it didn't belong. It was getting really aggravating. I may have to watch again now that I know Jack has been demoted and Steven Weber is on it, he should be good for the ratings.That's my two cents...

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/310245.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/310245.page GMT I tried once again to watch Without A Trace last night. After ten minutes, I turned to another channel. It has become the Jack and Samantha show. That character has already slept with Jack and Martin. Isn't it time for Danny? Jack is acting like an SOB. I understand they are fictional characters. But he is too fine an actor to be doing such crap.

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sophia12589 wrote: I tried once again to watch Without A Trace last night. After ten minutes, I turned to another channel. It has become the Jack and Samantha show. That character has already slept with Jack and Martin. Isn't it time for Danny? Jack is acting like an SOB. I understand they are fictional characters. But he is too fine an actor to be doing such crap.

Sorry you're disappointed with the show, but I wouldn't feel sorry for ALP "doing such crap. In several press interviews he has expressed wanting to "spice up" the formula.

Exhibit A : I wanted to play somebody who got it wrong often, who screwed up their life, who wasn't quite coping with how it went, let the pressure of the job get to him and made mistakes. He is not a completely honorable person. " LaPaglia says in a interview. Exhibit B : The tweaks to the formula are, in part, the result of nudging from the cast. "I'm all for messing with the formula," ALP says. "Formula is just luck." In fact, the cast had already tried spicing up the landscape. "We get these scenes that were a bit flat and we'd think 'What can we do with them?'" ALP says. "And we'd say 'Let's inject a little sex in there.' LaPaglia says.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/310375.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/310375.page GMT Okay, I just watched the clips from last Sunday's show and Jack is acting like quite the Jackass! I mean, come on, how juvenile can you be? "Too bad you couldn't have stayed a little longer?" (when Weber's character is back from D.C.). Ugh.

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SmithBye wrote: Okay, I just watched the clips from last Sunday's show and Jack is acting like quite the Jackass! I mean, come on, how juvenile can you be? "Too bad you couldn't have stayed a little longer?" (when Weber's character is back from D.C.). Ugh.

Wrong thread. There's a separate thread for episodes. The question is whether you believe Jack's demotion is fair?

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/310397.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/310397.page GMT Oops, sorry. I was just reading everyone else's comments and then replied. You're right, wrong thread.That being said - No, I don't think his demotion is unfair. In "real life", he would have been fired many times over!

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/311628.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/311628.page GMT In real life, he would be facing criminal charges.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/311646.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/311646.page GMT Yes, I think that what Jack does is necessary to get the job done.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/311902.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/311902.page GMT A few considerations: 1) I think what happened to Jack was fair, he made many mistakes, he had to pay. 2) No storylines was dropped, some of them simply ended: Martin's addiction, S/M's love story, Ann's relationship with Jack. D/E are going on, but they can't and have not to show us them, we simply DON'T CARE to see the single characters going home, kissing, hugging once it is established which one their relationship is, the show isn't about this. I love seeing some of their lives, a little here and there, like they always did. 3) The drop in ratings is general. "Desperate h." had 25 mls viewers at its premiere last year, this year they were 15 mls. "CSI M" started this year with more than 17 mls viewers, at its 2nd ep they were around 13. People can download eps extremely easily, sometimes it's even possible to see them on the networks' sites, this is the reason why. Wat last year was the only show to finish its season increasing steadily its public, I hope it will be the same this year.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/316637.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/316637.page GMT I agree that storylines weren't "dropped", not in the writers' minds anyways. They were just concluded extremely badly. You don't have someone fall into serious addiction, get cured in 1 episode and NEVER revisit the story again. You don't start a relationship between 2 agents (Danny/Elena) and completely neglect it for a whole season with not even one reference. You don't have the star's girlfriend lose a baby, break up and leave town all in one episode and NEVER mention it again. And so on. The writers just don't know how to write a personal story. Just my opinion.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/318052.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/318052.page GMT Unfair? Heck no, Jack Malone is a jerk. He should have been fired years ago. He was great in S1 and S2 but since then he's been nothing but a bully and out of control. He is no longer fit to be an FBI agent much less lead a team. He should be fired and Sam along with him...both are unfit.

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jenniff wrote: No, I do not think he what happened to Jack was fair. He should have been fired so he was actually given a big favor by the powers above by being allowed to keep a job in the FBI. The Jack of today is not a Jack I recognize. I want Jack the badass SAC, solving crimes by using his head and heart, not his fist. I hope this demotion allows him to figure things out with Claire so he can return to the great man we know he was and hopefully can be again. I also hope they resolve this mess and get back to quality storylines and intriguing stuff for the entire team. I am growing weary of the Jack and Sam show. I watch for Danny, Martin, Vivian and, heck, I'd even prefer more Elena time over more JS. Then again, that may be because I am still very bitter about what became of MS. I mean, come on, do the WAT PTB seriously think we have amnesia and forgot?

jenniff, blame the writers for Jack not being fired. After all, it is his starring role, not Viv, Sam, or anyone else. The writers probably wanted to shake it up a little and showcase ALP's great acting and Jack's emotional attachment to the people he tracks.As far as MS, Sam put that to rest rebuffing M. Who is Claire? If you are referring to one of the producers, what could you possibly be referring to?I am a huge lover of WAT and it concerns me that it has dipped in the ratings. I think it is due to this new storyline that has Medina in charge. It was obviously not going to happen for Viv when J supposedly was leaving for Chicago and his wife told him not to come. That in itself added the storyline of Viv's dissatisfaction with her position/demotion and blames J and gives him attitude all the time. I know MJB is supposed to be a good actor and she does well being a bitch in this series, but I think it would be better if she would be a lot nicer too.

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Julia58 wrote: I agree that storylines weren't "dropped", not in the writers' minds anyways. They were just concluded extremely badly. You don't have someone fall into serious addiction, get cured in 1 episode and NEVER revisit the story again. You don't start a relationship between 2 agents (Danny/Elena) and completely neglect it for a whole season with not even one reference. You don't have the star's girlfriend lose a baby, break up and leave town all in one episode and NEVER mention it again. And so on. The writers just don't know how to write a personal story. Just my opinion.

Just a few words, because I know I think differently from many others. You have 40 mns for each episode, just 40. It's not possible, in so little time, to carry on and on and on every storyline, create others and do what's most important, tell us the case of a missing person. The various team members' storylines add pepper and interest to the general plot but they HAVE to be dropped or we will be watching "The bold and the beautiful" and not Wat. Do we want Ann to come out again saying: Hey Jack, I'm back! Martin didn't get cured in 1 ep, they simply didn't show it and that's okay for me. As for D/E, I'm sure we'll see more of it.

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amphenol2 wrote:

Julia58 wrote: I agree that storylines weren't "dropped", not in the writers' minds anyways. They were just concluded extremely badly. You don't have someone fall into serious addiction, get cured in 1 episode and NEVER revisit the story again. You don't start a relationship between 2 agents (Danny/Elena) and completely neglect it for a whole season with not even one reference. You don't have the star's girlfriend lose a baby, break up and leave town all in one episode and NEVER mention it again. And so on. The writers just don't know how to write a personal story. Just my opinion.

Just a few words, because I know I think differently from many others. You have 40 mns for each episode, just 40. It's not possible, in so little time, to carry on and on and on every storyline, create others and do what's most important, tell us the case of a missing person. The various team members' storylines add pepper and interest to the general plot but they HAVE to be dropped or we will be watching "The bold and the beautiful" and not Wat. Do we want Ann to come out again saying: Hey Jack, I'm back! Martin didn't get cured in 1 ep, they simply didn't show it and that's okay for me. As for D/E, I'm sure we'll see more of it.

I think you hit the nail right on the head here. IMO the writers use their "artistic license" and choose only to actually show or continue with the storylines they consider to be major arcs in the show. We don't have to see everything happening to know that they are.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/319003.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/319003.page GMT They ARE the writers and therefore they can follow any "artistic license" they prefer, because it's up to them. In my opinion, they're doing a very good work, in some episode better than in another of course, but the level is extremely high. And if you don't believe it, compare Wat's stories and storylines with what we can see in CSI, Cold Case and so on.

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amphenol2 wrote: They ARE the writers and therefore they can follow any "artistic license" they prefer, because it's up to them. In my opinion, they're doing a very good work, in some episode better than in another of course, but the level is extremely high. And if you don't believe it, compare Wat's stories and storylines with what we can see in CSI, Cold Case and so on.

That was my point ITA with you.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/319019.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/319019.page GMT Excuse me, what does ITA mean???

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amphenol2 wrote: Excuse me, what does ITA mean???

I'm sorry, it's short for "I totally Agree"

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amphenol2 wrote: The drop in ratings is general. "Desperate h." had 25 mls viewers at its premiere last year, this year they were 15 mls. "CSI M" started this year with more than 17 mls viewers, at its 2nd ep they were around 13. People can download eps extremely easily, sometimes it's even possible to see them on the networks' sites, this is the reason why. Wat last year was the only show to finish its season increasing steadily its public, I hope it will be the same this year.

Not being American I find the ratings hard to understand but apparently it is not so much the total viewership as the number of viewers in the 18-49 age group. This is what the advertisers base their decisions on how much to place on and in the end it is how much revenue the Networks take from advertising which calls the shots. The increase in viewers for WaT at the end of last Season was surely mostly due to the move back to Thursday from Sunday with the big lead-in from CSI.Neilson which is the company responsible for producing the ratings in the US runs a site TVByTheNumbers which uses a formula to preedict which shows will survive. They have an uncannily accurate track record. It's not based on previous Seasons therefore the change of night would not affect it.Althoiugh WaT is still doing reasonably well with older viewers and maintains a place overall in the top 20 it has lost a lot in the 18-49 demos since last year and since this Season's premiere has shed a few more.Based on initials figures WaT was rated as a possibility for cancellation however, as of October 22, it has been downgraded and is now listed as "cancellation by May."

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littlegu1nea wrote: I think you hit the nail right on the head here. IMO the writers use their "artistic license" and choose only to actually show or continue with the storylines they consider to be major arcs in the show. We don't have to see everything happening to know that they are.

The problem IMO is exactly there. The writers have no idea how to provide continuity. They were great during the first 2 seasons, when they gave us little peeks into the characters past lives which didn't require follow-up. But when you tell a story in the present, it must have a beginning, a middle and an end. You can't peek into, let's say, addiction, and have the character act like it happened 20 years ago in subsequent episodes. I know the show only has 40 minutes, but it doesn't take long to include the tail end of a phone conversation between Jack and his daughter, or Martin and his sponsor. or Danny and his brother, or Viv and her husband. Hey, imagine if Sam had given birth at the end of last season, and there would be no reminder whatsoever during this season. Makes no sense, right? Well, that's exactly what they're doing to the other characters. With Sam, we get a reminder every episode. So, it's definitely a question of priorites. 100% Jack (or Sam), 0% anybody else. It used to be more like 80-20 during the first seasons, and most people agree that the show was much better then.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/319409.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/319409.page GMT Yeah, I think it was unfair. He saved that girl's life. He called Samantha to check on her and she didn't. He risked his life to make sure she was ok, if he hadn't she would have been killed. He is passionate about his job and helping people. Man, that a shame helping people is a bad quality these days.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/323015.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/323015.page GMT Hi everyone, Just discovered this board. I think Jack was out of control and probably deserved a little punishment. I think it's more about making sure the rest of his team don't think they can act the same way. The boss is supposed to lead by example

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/324797.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/324797.page GMT I want Jack to get back to normal Do you think the writers can " soften " him up a little He is way too stern

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/325157.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/325157.page GMT All I know is that I hope Jack gets his job back because his new boss is a jackass. If he stays on much longer, I will stop watching - I can't stand him!!!

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/325175.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/325175.page GMT By the looks of tonight's show, I think you got your wish. The new boss took is name plate off the desk!!

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/325192.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/325192.page GMT very unfair, jack malone is without a trace

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/326661.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/326661.page GMT What happened to Jack was fair. And, again, the writers started down a path of intersting story with Jack going into therapy and finding out why he does what he does (which is so wrong). And, again, the writers just ended the storyline in an unbelieveable way. Jack just walks back into his job? I hope there are still repurcussions and coments from his team and from his boss. I hope it is not "snap your fingers and everything is now fine."

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/327016.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/327016.page GMT I actually agree with the way it ended. The stress on any FBI team that is searching for a missing person has NO time, IMO, to concern themselves with ethics. I have worked for goverment for many years and there are those individuals (elected or otherwise) that come across doing business in an ethical way but that does not mean that is the way it is. Take the past NYS Governor for instance. Jack does what has to be done and has the strength to do what he has to for the safe return of the missing person. His new boss finally figured that out although wants to keep his pride intact. I do agree on a personal level that the writers do not seem to finish story lines. I happened to like Sam and Martin together myself. I actually love the actors in the whole team. I would want Jack and his team to be the real thing (a team similiar) if anyone I know and loved was missing for sure!

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/333949.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/333949.page GMT Jack's job is his passion and is important to him.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/341511.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/341511.page GMT I love Jack. I think he was a great leader. I'm sad to see him demoted, but at least he hasn't been written off.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/343605.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/343605.page GMT yes

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/356171.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/356171.page GMT No. I agree with the majority of responses to this question. Why didn't they just kill Jack off? He used to be kind of sexy but I don't want to watch a show about a dysfunctional Jack Malone. He would have been fired in real life. Make it stop!!! They need new blood to bring this show back to something I care to watch, which I don't anymore.

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bmzlks wrote: No. I agree with the majority of responses to this question. Why didn't they just kill Jack off? They need new blood to bring this show back to something I care to watch, which I don't anymore.

Well now, that's an easy question to answer, beacause he's the STAR of the show.And IMO a lot more people would switch off if Jack wasn't there front and centre. Me for one.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/359958.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/359958.page GMT I am sorry but I disagree, JACK is NOT the star of the show...the people who go missing are the center of the show, like other shows ...the several NCI, Cold case , CSi and so on, where every character has his/her own oom ( so the several fans are all glad and happy and have no reason to argue ... of course there are one or two main characters, but they there is no "prima Donna") but what I DO appreciate is that the stories are centered on the tragedy of the people as it SHOULD be, and not on the personal problems of one single guy....

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mgv57 wrote: I am sorry but I disagree, JACK is NOT the star of the show...the people who go missing are the center of the show, like other shows ...the several NCI, Cold case , CSi and so on, where every character has his/her own oom ( so the several fans are all glad and happy and have no reason to argue ... of course there are one or two main characters, but they there is no "prima Donna") but what I DO appreciate is that the stories are centered on the tragedy of the people as it SHOULD be, and not on the personal problems of one single guy....

I'm afraid I wouldn't call ALP a prima donna if that's what your implying, he is a versatile and very gifted actor, whilst I respect some of your views, we'll have to agree to disagree.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/366504.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/366504.page GMT Sorry, I DID NOT mean to be offensive,,,gosh ! the problem of language ! I APOLGIZE, I am Italian, English is not my mother tongue so FIRSTLY : I beg you pardon if I have offended you or anyone......Then I'll try to explain : Saying " Prima Donna" I wanted to say a someone who centers all the attention on him/herself alone , leaving no room for anyone else., keeping them aside. in the dark..(I thought this Italian word was know in other language like ; bravo or other Italian words used in music which have no translation...)All the actors are clever ( the only one who, in my opinion, is a bit...stiff and not very expressive is Elena...she is a bit too cold...) but it is sad to see this too obvious less of balance between the actors...they are not a team working together and wat has lost its real focus ( the missing persons...) I repeat it is not Jack's or Danny's minutes on the screen ...but the main characters are the missing persons ( in my stricy opinion ) ...In no other show the attention is focus so much, too much on one or two characters ( here Jack 7 Sam )I followed their story at the beginning, but now, I think it is a bit..too much... I DO understand the happiness and joy of their fans of course, it is natural...but I love action and not love stories ( I would watch something else ) I watched, sorry I used to watch wat with great attention because I loved following the stories of those missingpeople and looking for them with the team, rebuinding their lives......but now...no team...no sign of their old friendship...a love story show..... (Please, let me know if is ti clear now the meaning of the word "prima donna" ? It has nothing to do with "donna " that is woman...it is NOT offensive)

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mgv57 wrote: Sorry, I DID NOT mean to be offensive,,,gosh ! the problem of language ! I APOLGIZE, I am Italian, English is not my mother tongue so FIRSTLY : I beg you pardon if I have offended you or anyone......Then I'll try to explain : Saying " Prima Donna" I wanted to say a someone who centers all the attention on him/herself alone , leaving no room for anyone else., keeping them aside. in the dark (Please, let me know if is ti clear now the meaning of the word "prima donna" ? It has nothing to do with "donna " that is woman...it is NOT offensive)

I think it is probably a language thing, although your English is great by the way. However, I didn't find it offensive anyway because we all have opinions, but it had nothing to do with the female aspect. I primarily think of a Prima donna as egotistical, unreasonable and irritable, with a rather high opinion of themselves not shared by others and I just don't see Anthony Lapaglia as this, but I know you didn't mean that now. It just shows you how everyone is different because I do enjoy the show because of the romance, primarily Jack and Sam. I enjoyed the first few seasons because we saw a lot of flirting and issues between them, then seasons 4 and 5 came along which I didn't enjoy so much. I know the show is about the missing person and of course it wouldn't exist but for that. Let's hope that they will start to balance the episodes a little better soon.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/370300.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/370300.page GMT That is as it MUST be...everyone expressing his/her own ideas...hopefully different ideas. peacefully...just think if you and I had exactly the same feelng : you would say : great !...I would say: ditto! ( I agree ) " that means...end of the story and of our exchange of opinions...Luckily we are ALL different and it is great to share different ideas ( without being aggressive and offend people : that's why I stopped answering to some people )Anyway I just let you know this : I am making a dvd with the scenes of Danny....do you know in one episode ( season 5..I guess ) for how long he was allowed to appear ? Two minutes and 25 seconds....in another 1 minutes and some seconds...If Jack's , Sam's, Martin's......supporters were Danny's suppoters, wouldn't they be little disappointed ? If Jack appeared only for two minutes...how would they feel ? Wouldn't they say _ Hey ! Why this ? Is there a reason ? - They were entitled to ...I would agree with them, even if I were not a fan of Jack's...that's what made me sad : to Jack's fans , that is right...That's what I do not think it is fair in the show, that's what I cannot understand : why the first seasons followed a path, then everything changed,...I can survive that, of course, there are more important things in life... but I,too, would like to sit and enjoy the show, like Jack's fans, like I used too, when I enjoyed the TEAM, instead now, I switch the tv off, feeling a bit disapponted...I cannot understand why they dislike him so much... what he did wrong, he is not a bad actor. and he doesn't seem to be a bad person, like the others in the show...I cannnot understand the reason why...that's all. (Please let me know if somehing is not clear, I am alwas afraid to be misunderstood it is easy when the language you use is not yours ( like...Prima Donna...sigh ) Mirella.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/370652.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/370652.page GMT Mirella, I've said it before, don't worry about your English you do a great job. I hope that you get some decent Danny scenes soon. I think in another thread it says that the next episode should be a good one for danny/Elena fans and I do hope so. Enrique is a fine actor and I like his character very much. Anyway, I suppose we are going off topic here a little so I'll keep this brief. I do hope that the series progresses so that it gives all of the actors a chance to shine.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/370848.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/370848.page GMT I do not see that we lost the bad-arse Jack Malone, as I only see his character acting as he always did.The "demotion" is an interesting twist, and will keep Agent Malone in-check for awhile. It will be interesting to see how long this "new boss" lasts. Will his departure be part of this season's storyline, or will he be taken out due to the displeasure of the show's fans?Personally, I would love to see Agent Malone knock his guy out, though not as the "bad-arse" character. More if this "new boss" ( sorry I do not remember his name ), got out of line somewhere. Maybe putting the team in unnecessary danger, or making a out of line comment about a member of the team. That should be in the episode where Jack Malone "redeems" himself ( as some of the fans here believe he should ).Just my two copper jackets...

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/420372.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/420372.page GMT No, I don't think its unfair. He deserved it all. You know what other great show that I've seen and that you should check out? Novel Adventures.noveladventures.c bs.com - check it outsee ya - Lizzie

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LizzieMcK wrote: No, I don't think its unfair. He deserved it all. You know what other great show that I've seen and that you should check out? Novel Adventures.noveladventures.c bs.com - check it outsee ya - Lizzie

Oh, this is just a form of spam, like your other posts in other threads. Novel Adventures doesn't have any actors I like so, no, not for me.Now, back to WAT.

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/423194.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/423194.page GMT Hi everyone! i just read all of the posts in this forum and i don't think i've missed any episodes this Fall, but i haven't seen his boss recently. Am i missing something or has he been reinstated?Have a great evening!

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/427341.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/427341.page GMT i don't think so

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/429853.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/429853.page GMT oh. O.k. Thanks! and have a great evening!

]]> http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/430038.page http://www.cbs.com/forum/posts/preList/17961/430038.page GMT Like everything that happens to Jack is unfair. Jack Malone is the BEST EVER!

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