roanmountain wrote: Kim is by far the most annoying character on the show. I have watched every episode of the the Unit and I am a great fan of the show. I just finished Season 4, episode 2 (Sudden Flight). For some reason I feel like the writers have decided to make Kim the strong women in the show and she just comes off as annoying. I felt this way before this episode but after watching this episode I feel like screaming every-time she has a scene. I think the actress is good, and I don't know how they can make the Kim character more likable, but right now she is not coming off as a strong women she just comes off as really annoying.

sniper483 wrote: The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.Also, while the colonel is a despicable officer with only sporadic honor, at least he was faithful to his wife until she betrayed him and the Unit. Tiffy seems to go running back to Ryan every time. She actively attempts to seduce him and the miserable bastard hasn't got the gonads to send her packing once and for all. This latest resurgence of their affair seems based on Ryan's divorce and Tiffy's impending divorce. Regardless, they are both betraying Mack and to me that is intolerable.Now, while the Unit's code is to kill an officer that sleeps with a shooter's wife, I can't personally justify murder as punishment for adultery. However, Ryan should be brought up on charges and dishonorably discharged from the Army. Mack and Tiffy should get divorced (with joint custody) since their relationship has been dysfunctional from the very beginning. Let Tiffy be someone else's problem as it is obvious she won't be faithful to any spouse no matter how rich or attentive. She will always find a way to rationalize and excuse her betrayals.

mxmartinifan wrote:

sniper483 wrote: The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.Also, while the colonel is a despicable officer with only sporadic honor, at least he was faithful to his wife until she betrayed him and the Unit. Tiffy seems to go running back to Ryan every time. She actively attempts to seduce him and the miserable bastard hasn't got the gonads to send her packing once and for all. This latest resurgence of their affair seems based on Ryan's divorce and Tiffy's impending divorce. Regardless, they are both betraying Mack and to me that is intolerable.Now, while the Unit's code is to kill an officer that sleeps with a shooter's wife, I can't personally justify murder as punishment for adultery. However, Ryan should be brought up on charges and dishonorably discharged from the Army. Mack and Tiffy should get divorced (with joint custody) since their relationship has been dysfunctional from the very beginning. Let Tiffy be someone else's problem as it is obvious she won't be faithful to any spouse no matter how rich or attentive. She will always find a way to rationalize and excuse her betrayals.

Well stated, Sniper483. The writers have certainly portrayed Mack and Tiffy's marriage as a living nightmare for both of them. It is painful for the viewers to see how Mack is hurting so much over his wife's ongoing betrayal with his commanding officer. I absolutely cringe when I see those scenes.

poboyze wrote: I think we are witnessing the end of THE UNIT...The appeal of this program is the covert combat and danger that "males"/"men" endure in the military. The constant and continual attempt to gender-neutralize the culture like this might sit well with your stock holders, feminists, and the anti-man crowd in Hollywood...but the public you serve doesn't like it...Our culture hungers for REAL MEN and the depiction of such...Mr. Knowitall

sniper483 wrote: It seems like everyone hates Kim Brown. Not me... yes she is a bit whiny and she complains a lot. But she is also resourceful and intelligent. As an example, consider how she handled nearly being raped in the radio station. She kept her head and managed to get the station manager's attention. Until season four, she was the only wife that actually participated on a mission with Bob (in Season 1). While she complains, she is also loyal and evidently really loves her husband (as does Molly Blain).The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.Also, while the colonel is a despicable officer with only sporadic honor, at least he was faithful to his wife until she betrayed him and the Unit. Tiffy seems to go running back to Ryan every time. She actively attempts to seduce him and the miserable bastard hasn't got the gonads to send her packing once and for all. This latest resurgence of their affair seems based on Ryan's divorce and Tiffy's impending divorce. Regardless, they are both betraying Mack and to me that is intolerable.Now, while the Unit's code is to kill an officer that sleeps with a shooter's wife, I can't personally justify murder as punishment for adultery. However, Ryan should be brought up on charges and dishonorably discharged from the Army. Mack and Tiffy should get divorced (with joint custody) since their relationship has been dysfunctional from the very beginning. Let Tiffy be someone else's problem as it is obvious she won't be faithful to any spouse no matter how rich or attentive. She will always find a way to rationalize and excuse her betrayals. As I have read other posters’ comments I must conclude that our society is so devoid of values that as long as someone has an attractive face and body we are willing to excuse them from the demands of common decency. So for myself, other than her physical appearance, I find Tiffy to be obnoxious and without any redeeming qualities. I would also render the same judgment on her traitorous partner in adultery, the snarling Col. Ryan.

SSgtNick wrote: Get the women out of the episodes. This is supposed to be about the unit men with a bit of the wives added. They should not be the main story line on any of the episodes. It is stupid to think that the Army would be authorized to have the wives help out in a mission. They dont have any security clearance there fore they could not participate in a covert military operation. The story lines are getting far fetched, when this show started it was a seemingly believeable series about a covert military unit while showing some of the struggles the wives go through at home.

theunitlover wrote: I like all the wives on this show . I like the feistiness of Kim, the strength of Molly, and vibrancy of Tiffy . All three while not always given the best material always give outstanding performances and always deliver !

theunitlover wrote: I like all the wives on this show . I like the feistiness of Kim, the strength of Molly, and vibrancy of Tiffy . All three while not always given the best material always give outstanding performances and always deliver !

theunitlover wrote: All three while not always given the best material always give outstanding performances and always deliver !

sadataye wrote: I have never been a fan of the women of this show except for Regina Taylor. They are vapid, silly and always victims. Are there no women in the families of real unit members who have some backbone?? It would be nice if they showed PORTRAYED women as confident, smart and capable.Cant decide who is worse- the Kim Brown character who WHINES ALL THE TIME or the character of Tiffy who cant manage her own life, she is ALWAYS a victim.I am amazed they let her keep her kids on that show,If this season is going to focus on the women more than previous seasons, they will lose a viewer.Show me the men in action, taking down the bad guys. Show the women every other episode if they must be shown.

gordonitis1 wrote: You people need to get real lives. It's only a TV show. It either entertains you or it doesn't. Tiffy this and what's her face that. I say can the women and get on with the action. The show is called The Unit not the estrogen club. The wives parts have been a drain on the action from the first episode.

gordonitis1 wrote: You people need to get real lives. It's only a TV show. It either entertains you or it doesn't. Tiffy this and what's her face that. I say can the women and get on with the action. The show is called The Unit not the estrogen club. The wives parts have been a drain on the action from the first episode.

sniper483 wrote: The wife I despise is the series "hottie". I find if fascinating how everyone just blows past the fact that Tiffy is a lying, conniving, manipulating adulteress who is betraying a man who regularly puts his life on the line to serve and protect his country. She is also abrasive, self-righteous, sanctimonious and spiteful. She is constantly looking for an opportunity to "trade-up" for a better spouse. Her leftie lawyer or Col. Tom Ryan... hell I wouldn't be surprised if she went for the sleazy titty-bar owner. Her current plan seems to be, on advice of council, to ambush Mack with her own divorce notice and attempt to gain sole custody of her daughters (who seem to really love their Dad). At least Mack never threatened that when he was pursuing his own threat of divorce.

mydogtheboss wrote:

gordonitis1 wrote: - color=red]You people need to get real lives. It's only a TV show. It either entertains you or it doesn't. Tiffy this and what's her face that. I say can the women and get on with the action. The show is called The Unit not the estrogen club. The wives parts have been a drain on the action from the first episode.[/color]

So why are you on the board? No one is forcing you to be here, why don't you get a life?

gordonitis1 wrote: ...The show is called The Unit not the estrogen club. The wives parts have been a drain on the action from the first episode.

mxmartinifan wrote: I agree.

gordonitis1 wrote: I vote to reduce the wives role to supporting only. No more main story lines.

grayhnd wrote: ...If you try to narrow the appeal of the show you by definition reduce the ratings of an already borderline show. Many of the studio exec's are liberals and have a certain disdain for the military. These people are probably looking for an excuse to kill this show... ...It's still a matter of economics. Women are half the population and are responsible in one way or another for 75% or more of the purchasing decisions that go on out there. EVERY show will always try to broaden it's appeal to women because advertisers know that is where the money is at.

auburnhead33 wrote: Since CBS did renew the show we can probably assume it was based on if they made changes to appeal to a broader audience. But I haven't seen a huge jump in the numbers of viewers since the format changed. Now maybe that is because it is on Sunday nights now. Although to me it looks like the viewership is still the same core fan base that they had on Tuesday night...so why not go back to the original format that we all loved so much?

gordonitis1 wrote: Ya the whole point of TV is commercials with some programming in the middle.

auburnhead33 wrote:

grayhnd wrote: ...If you try to narrow the appeal of the show you by definition reduce the ratings of an already borderline show. Many of the studio exec's are liberals and have a certain disdain for the military. These people are probably looking for an excuse to kill this show... ...It's still a matter of economics. Women are half the population and are responsible in one way or another for 75% or more of the purchasing decisions that go on out there. EVERY show will always try to broaden it's appeal to women because advertisers know that is where the money is at.

Since CBS did renew the show we can probably assume it was based on if they made changes to appeal to a broader audience. But I haven't seen a huge jump in the numbers of viewers since the format changed. Now maybe that is because it is on Sunday nights now. Although to me it looks like the viewership is still the same core fan base that they had on Tuesday night...so why not go back to the original format that we all loved so much? I vote to reduce the wives role to supporting only. No more main story lines.

gordonitis1 wrote: Of course it's the writing. The women don't really exist any more than the unit exists. The writing sucks because they insist on adding elements to that show that are not integral to the advertised premise. The writers should stick to the unit and forget the wives.

gordonitis1 wrote: Of course it's the writing. The women don't really exist any more than the unit exists. The writing sucks because they insist on adding elements to that show that are not integral to the advertised premise. The writers should stick to the unit and forget the wives.

gordonitis1 wrote: Oh forget it.

roobaby45 wrote:

gordonitis1 wrote: [co - or=red] Of course it's the writing. The women don't really exist any more than the unit exists. The writing sucks because they insist on adding elements to that show that are not integral to the advertised premise. The writers should stick to the unit and forget the wives.[/color]

Dude, this IS the advertised premise. You just seem to be denying it.

gordonitis1 wrote: If you will remember correctly the advertised premise was a combat unit in a war zone. Nothing was mentioned about a bunch of women complaining about their jobs or how horrible life is on a military base. The story about Tiffy and the colonel was good because it has a direct influence on the combat unit. Blaine's daughter being captured is OK too but I don't care a bit about most of the other stuff concerning the women and their irrelevant problems of day to day life. And neither do most other guys.

gordonitis1 wrote: I know solders have wives, and lives, outside of the missions. I don't care about that. I don't want to see what the wives do outside of how they interact with their husbands. That stuff has no relevance to "the unit". The wives have jobs. So what? The wives go to work and like their bosses. So what? I don't want to go shopping with them or hear about what the kids did at school. The minutia of daily life is boring and has no place in the show. I like the show when the men are on a mission and I don't like it when the wives are doing something irrelevant. Especially when the show switches back and forth between the two story lines. All that does is make the mission too short on detail, it's not believable. Everything is wrapped up nice and neat with no setbacks or unforeseen problems. I think the producers should reduce the wives parts to supporting characters only. No more main story lines. If I want to watch a bunch of women go shopping of complain about their whatever, I'll watch a soap opera. As I've said before, what I am interested in is how the missions are planned and executed. I want the solders to be human though, not superhuman. I want realism without irrelevancies.

icMojo wrote: It is a TV show that has gone a bit over the top with this covert life and having untrained and non-military doing military jobs ... But, they should be able to pull it out of its spin, if they want to keep it running.I vote for a return to the relative normalcy of the earlier seasons.

knightsgrace wrote: I do sympathize with your feelings about the wives taking too much time away from the military activities, gordonitis, but I personally think that the writer's had to alter the format somewhat in order to get the show renewed. If we have to live with some of the more boring aspects of the show in order for it to stay on the air, then we should enjoy what we can for as long as we can. I, too, feel that earlier seasons were more interesting but the show was on the "bubble" and might not have been renewed if the writer's had not softened it up a little to appeal to a broader audience. Just enjoy the parts that you like best.

gordonitis1 wrote: If you want to see how it should be done refer to The Shield.

icMojo wrote: gordonitis1 that is well off topic and not really for this region, head to the Off Topic section to talk about it ( http://www.cbs.com/forum/forum
s/show/2 - 7.page) Meh. If I wanted to watch a show about dirty cops and unjust judicial systems, I 'd watch any cops-n-robbers tv show out there, they are all the same .

icMojo wrote: Yeah, I couldn't resist getting my 2 cents in there

gordonitis1 wrote: The wives are support characters only.

Huggsnok wrote:

gordonitis1 wrote: [col - r=black] The wives are support characters only.[/color]

Yes! I agree totally on this. Support characters, and supporting actors too for that matter. None of the cast playing the wifes in my opinion has what it takes to carry a story. I kind of think that the wifes were never intended as anything but support really, but somehow along the line they panicked and decided to give the wifes something to do. I dunno but i suspect there might be a "gief more air time or we quit" kinda deal behind it. *Plays scary conspiracy kind of music* DUN DUN DUN DUN!

roobaby45 wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: [quote - gordonitis1][col - r=black] The wives are support characters only.[/color]

Yes! I agree totally on this. Support characters, and supporting actors too for that matter. None of the cast playing the wifes in my opinion has what it takes to carry a story. I kind of think that the wifes were never intended as anything but support really, but somehow along the line they panicked and decided to give the wifes something to do. I dunno but i suspect there might be a "gief more air time or we quit" kinda deal behind it. *Plays scary conspiracy kind of music* DUN DUN DUN DUN!Having interviewed all three of the wives, I can say that is not the case. Not one of them is like that. The secondary plot of the wives this season was someone else's idea.

HolyDiva wrote: I hope they have another show about the women on the unit. I would like to see the woman on an nother mission and this time the man take a leason on a women point of view for a change. Just one more time.

HolyDiva wrote: I hope they have another show about the women on the unit. I would like to see the woman on an nother mission and this time the man take a leason on a women point of view for a change. Just one more time.

auburnhead33 wrote:

HolyDiva wrote: I hope they have another show about the women on the unit. I would like to see the woman on an nother mission and this time the man take a leason on a women point of view for a change. Just one more time.

There must be something wrong with me...but I love to watch good-looking men working, sweating, and killing off bad guys...and hey...once in a while one of them will be shirtless !!!

Huggsnok wrote:

auburnhead33 wrote: [qu - te=HolyDiva]I hope they have another show about the women on the unit. I would like to see the woman on an nother mission and this time the man take a leason on a women point of view for a change. Just one more time.

There must be something wrong with me...but I love to watch good-looking men working, sweating, and killing off bad guys...and hey...once in a while one of them will be shirtless !!!

Huggsnok wrote:

auburnhead33 wrote: The - e must be something wrong with me...but I love to watch good-looking men working, sweating, and killing off bad guys...and hey...once in a while one of them might be shirtless !!!

I actually wouldnt mind a good looking woman working, sweating and killing of bad guys either, specially not if she was shirtless.

nynaevelan wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: [quot - =auburnhead33][qu - te=HolyDiva]I hope they have another show about the women on the unit. I would like to see the woman on an nother mission and this time the man take a leason on a women point of view for a change. Just one more time.

There must be something wrong with me...but I love to watch good-looking men working, sweating, and killing off bad guys...and hey...once in a while one of them will be shirtless !!!

vetmomof2 wrote: Oh please please please stop it with the whinning, victim women who cannot hold it together. OMG! As a veteran I will say I have seen these women (and some men) who behave this way but really for the love of all that is holy and good or even evil and bad make them stop whinning about their kids and their homes and their this and their that uggghhhhhh!!!!!I want the old CSM wife back, when this first started she was BA and so was Tiffy. They were strong until that whinner Kim showed up screaming about her rights!!!!!Ok rant over.

Huggsnok wrote: Aye! I agree! Lets revoke the right of all women! It's just whining anyhow

dreamashere wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: Aye! I agree! Lets revoke the right of all women! It's just whining anyhow

Grrrrrr. Huggsnok, what would your mother say if she saw that post? LOL. Women everywhere are going to be throwing frying pans, irons, and microwaves at you.

Huggsnok wrote: I seriously think the whole wife line has gone completely bonkers . (Allthough I think half of the forum knows this by now ) I just wish they would get the show SOMEWHAT in touch with reality again. Atleast if they expect it a show to be taken seriously. Right now its more like a comedy drama or something.

knightsgrace wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: [co - or=red]I seriously think the whole wife line has gone completely bonkers[/color]. (Allthough I think half of the forum knows this by now ) I just wish they would get the show SOMEWHAT in touch with reality again. Atleast if they expect it a show to be taken seriously. Right now its more like a comedy drama or something.

I agree with you about the wives on missions. I liked it better when they showed them more as the wives behind their husbands supporting them on the homefront. Like the time Molly covered for Jonas when he fired shots at the mirror. She covered for him beautifully in that episode.

OnceThere wrote: While I don't mind the sub plots concerning the wives, girlfriends, and mistresses of the main cast, they should be secondary at best, and more often tertiary plots, not main plots, nor main story focus. This whole situation with Kim, is way out of hand. At most, we should see only one of the wives, Et Al for a few fleeting seconds per episode, not for half, or more, and they should just be background, not primary characters.No offense to the actresses portraying these characters, but the primary story should be about the soldiers, their missions, and the overall success' that Special Operations makes for the protection of this nation, and the ever shrinking free world.

nynaevelan wrote:

OnceThere wrote: While I don't mind the sub plots concerning the wives, girlfriends, and mistresses of the main cast, they should be secondary at best, and more often tertiary plots, not main plots, nor main story focus. This whole situation with Kim, is way out of hand. At most, we should see only one of the wives, Et Al for a few fleeting seconds per episode, not for half, or more, and they should just be background, not primary characters.No offense to the actresses portraying these characters, but the primary story should be about the soldiers, their missions, and the overall success' that Special Operations makes for the protection of this nation, and the ever shrinking free world.

Once again if you will read through some of the other posts you will see why some disagree with this statement. There are opinions on both sides of the fence and both sides will give good justifications as to why they believe their side is correct. I for one am not going to get back into another discussion regarding it. I will just continue to watch TU and hope my reasons for why/why not the women storyline's should become primary or stay secondary will be written and broadcast every now and again.Nyn

deberdeber wrote: [colo - =blue][/color]I love this show. I wonder how many of you are military spouses I am. My husband has served 3 year long tours with 8 months inbetween each tour. Try running your own home with no suport. all the rules and regulations you have to follow even though you do not wear green. Watching the news. Yes these wives complain and whine... who listens no one . When our spouses do get home they are not the same we have to watch what we say incase it sets them off into a rage. They dont sleep. So until you have walked in any military shoes you cant judge how you would react to this life style.

deberdeber wrote: [colo - =blue][/color]I love this show. I wonder how many of you are military spouses I am. My husband has served 3 year long tours with 8 months inbetween each tour. Try running your own home with no suport. all the rules and regulations you have to follow even though you do not wear green. Watching the news. Yes these wives complain and whine... who listens no one . When our spouses do get home they are not the same we have to watch what we say incase it sets them off into a rage. They dont sleep. So until you have walked in any military shoes you cant judge how you would react to this life style.

Huggsnok wrote:

auburnhead33 wrote: [qu - te=HolyDiva]I hope they have another show about the women on the unit. I would like to see the woman on an nother mission and this time the man take a leason on a women point of view for a change. Just one more time.

There must be something wrong with me...but I love to watch good-looking men working, sweating, and killing off bad guys...and hey...once in a while one of them will be shirtless !!!

stolengoat wrote: I know that you have to keep the women as a part of the show to keep women viewers interested. I do however have a problem with the new women shooter. I mean come on thier are know women shooters on Delta Force. I resent the fact that not long after her indocternation to the unit, she was already Quaterbacking missions. I love the show and hope it runs for many more seasons. Whomever had the idea to add a women shooter so that target market can identify with the show is a fool and should be treated as such.

mxmartinifan wrote: The writers really need to get this man back with his kids so he can bond with the new baby, and see all the cute things kids do in the various stages of growing up. Not fair to the kids either. Just MHO.

country_road wrote: More shower scenes of Mack Gerhardt for example.

Can't the guys just have one show where we don't have to share the hour with female oriented themes?

ksalanpang wrote: i think writer's intention isn't too concern about the demographics that care about the wives. They're really trying to have stories revolve around soldiers in all angles 360º. You won't understand what soldiers really fight for if the wives don't exist in the show. There're things going on with the soldiers' family. They're not superhero please bare in mind. They're NORMAL people when they're off duty. They do come home and try to spend quality time with their kids and wives. You can easily tell by just looking at Mack/Tiffy, Bob/Kim..They were struggling handling things at home alone. When things do get hairy, they have their wives community on base helping each other out. The more and closer you look at the development on characters you'd appreciate why they have the wives appear in the show. Hope this explains the other 180º behind the battle front.

fxxxa wrote:

ksalanpang wrote: i think writer's intention isn't too concern about the demographics that care about the wives. They're really trying to have stories revolve around soldiers in all angles 360º. You won't understand what soldiers really fight for if the wives don't exist in the show. There're things going on with the soldiers' family. They're not superhero please bare in mind. They're NORMAL people when they're off duty. They do come home and try to spend quality time with their kids and wives. You can easily tell by just looking at Mack/Tiffy, Bob/Kim..They were struggling handling things at home alone. When things do get hairy, they have their wives community on base helping each other out. The more and closer you look at the development on characters you'd appreciate why they have the wives appear in the show. Hope this explains the other 180º behind the battle front.

I understand that soldiers are (very) human and not 'Arnies' and appreciate that they, like all of us, have a family life. I am in no way trying to marginalize that aspect of a soldier's life. As for the show however, I would prefer that they concentrate on the things military only and leave the domestic side to another series. I'm more interested in watching the soldiers in action, using american ingenuity, weaponry and technology. You know, like Generation Kill, Jarhead, Band of Brothers, etc. Thanks,fxxxa

twobelmar wrote: I'm sure the demographics would show the overwhelming audience for this show to be men. I'm glad to see that there are others who believe the women in this show get too much show time. Personnaly I would like to see the show focus on missions and not cheating wives and Kim's radio show, etc.

nynaevelan wrote: K:What are you trying to do to me with that avatar, I think my heart just skipped 10 beats. Nyn

angel_in_la wrote: fxxxa: Once in a while they have a total MAN hour. SERE and Dark of the Moon, come to mind. But most of the time, it's both and that's life and the premise that put this show on the air. Deal.

nynaevelan wrote: K: What are you trying to do to me with that avatar, I think my heart just skipped 10 beats. Nyn

auburnhead33 wrote:

nynaevelan wrote: K: What are you trying to do to me with that avatar, I think my heart just skipped 10 beats. Nyn

Hope you don't mind but I went "whoo hoo!" when I saw ksalanpang's avatar...I remember that scene...pretty hot stuff...Dennis looked mighty good!!!

auburnhead33 wrote:

nynaevelan wrote: K: What are you trying to do to me with that avatar, I think my heart just skipped 10 beats. Nyn

Hope you don't mind but I went "whoo hoo!" when I saw ksalanpang's avatar...I remember that scene...pretty hot stuff...Dennis looked mighty good!!!

ksalanpang wrote: what more could you get He's in great shape

ksalanpang wrote: too many lethal weapons on some of our avatars, 'bout time for some hot stuff other than a gun. There goes jonas in a shower.

ksalanpang wrote:

nynaevelan wrote: K: What are you trying to do to me with that avatar, I think my heart just skipped 10 beats. Nyn

LOL. time for a little change. My last avatar (Bob -side-) was too normal. I was thinking to replace it with something other than just a headshot or someone with a gun. Now I got Jonas with a shower head. How 'bout that?!

mxmartinifan wrote: I loved that outdoor shower scene, but the nit-picky in me kept thinking "where is that contaminated water running off to?" LOL.

ksalanpang wrote: ...no, which one are you referring to mmfan? dennis is always in the briefing room i recall

mxmartinifan wrote:

ksalanpang wrote: . - .no, which one are you referring to mmfan? dennis is always in the briefing room i recall

Oooh. Should have been more specific. In Misled, Misguided when the team is coming up with the various plans to make the mission work, there is one scene of Dennis walking towards the camera. When I saw that shot of him I couldn't help thinking how fit and trim he is. And I think he is 54 years old. So he is in really good shape.And to the suggestion of Lake Bell. Loved her in that sci-fi show a couple of years ago. Think it was called Surface . Although I have to admit I think we have enough women on the show. I want more men. Ha ha.

mazhter wrote: I would like to see Lake Bell as the new girlfriend/wife of Betty Blue.

Huggsnok wrote: Ya know, for all the lip some people been givin Red Cap cuz she happened to wear a bikini in one episode, and undid her shirt in another one, there is a lot of drooling over half naked men. I'm just going to stop taking that argument seriously now, since it's obvious it has nothing to do with that, its just envy that she is on the show and the women bitching at her are not.

Huggsnok wrote: Ya know, for all the lip some people been givin Red Cap cuz she happened to wear a bikini in one episode, and undid her shirt in another one, there is a lot of drooling over half naked men. I'm just going to stop taking that argument seriously now, since it's obvious it has nothing to do with that, its just envy that she is on the show and the women bitching at her are not.

mxmartinifan wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: Ya know, for all the lip some people been givin Red Cap cuz she happened to wear a bikini in one episode, and undid her shirt in another one, there is a lot of drooling over half naked men. I'm just going to stop taking that argument seriously now, since it's obvious it has nothing to do with that, its just envy that she is on the show and the women bitching at her are not.

Nice to see you back ruffling our feathers, Huggsnok. LOL. All I can say is if it was just envy, I'd be campaigning to get Tiffy off the show. After all, she gets to kiss Max.

nynaevelan wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: Ya know, for all the lip some people been givin Red Cap cuz she happened to wear a bikini in one episode, and undid her shirt in another one, there is a lot of drooling over half naked men. I'm just going to stop taking that argument seriously now, since it's obvious it has nothing to do with that, its just envy that she is on the show and the women bitching at her are not.

What the H3LL are you talking about?? Personally it has nothing to do with envy. And if memory serves correctly there were more arguments of men complaining there are no women in special forces than women complaining about her lack of dress. And for the record you have NEVER seen any of the men remove their clothes during a mission to entice or distract the enemy. Well except for RBE and that was Mariana's suggestions NOT Jonas'.... Nyn

mxmartinifan wrote:

Huggsnok wrote: Ya know, for all the lip some people been givin Red Cap cuz she happened to wear a bikini in one episode, and undid her shirt in another one, there is a lot of drooling over half naked men. I'm just going to stop taking that argument seriously now, since it's obvious it has nothing to do with that, its just envy that she is on the show and the women bitching at her are not.

Nice to see you back ruffling our feathers, Huggsnok. LOL. All I can say is if it was just envy, I'd be campaigning to get Tiffy off the show. After all, she gets to kiss Max.

auburnhead33 wrote: Okay, Huggsnok, let's make a deal...you can have Red Cap, Kim, Tiffy and Molly in all the thong bathing suits you want...as long as we get Max and (fill in the name of your favorite male star) shirtless and in boxer briefs...hehehe

auburnhead33 wrote: as long as we get Max and shirtless and in boxer briefs...hehehe

ShiningHorse wrote: Think of how many women loved the Behind Enemy Lines movie...

ShiningHorse wrote: Anyways... How y'all been? Did y'all miss me? I been too tired and busy to post for days, but I got a good sleep and some exercise this morning. I am raring to go now. And I really wasn't going to post until the next new show, but since y'all are posting...what the heck.See y'all again real soon.ShiningHorse

ksalanpang wrote: Naperville, IL chicago suburb. windy place here yea. long wait but i guess, worth it. I hope there won't be another xmas-new year special program replace the Unit the after the coming sunday. lets have our fingers crossed..

ksalanpang wrote: Rod Blagojevich will resign this week. I joked about him not getting the highway construction right. Seriously every year there's construction works on the few highway routes here, whoever that was planning it didn't get it right in one shot. Me and some of my colleagues hate running on a maze with heavy traffic. I know Rod Blagojevich approved it so I blame it on him long before the scandel LOL. I don't think any of us know what good he had done. I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

ksalanpang wrote: yea. lots of snow here. I'm about 35 miles west of downtown chicago. It's cold, snowy, windy and whatnot. You know better than I do!

ssgt0341 wrote: ksalanpang THANKS for the welcome . i grew up with the army all my life , dad is in service and siblings as well. at times i get mad at things but i have to remember hey its TV lol.I agree from the wives Kim is the only one with some common sense.I cant wait for next sunday its been so boring. so where is everyone from??

roobaby45 wrote: South Florida. We don't get snow days here but occassionaly we get Hurricane days off. Of course, that means no electricity, no cable, no net, no phones. But I do enjoy Christmas Day in shorts, t-shirt. and sandals.

ksalanpang wrote: I hate natural disaster Most of all I hate cold.

knightbright wrote: How did a thread about the "Women of The Unit" turn into a discussion of what region of the US you live in and weather conditions? We have an Off Topic category for that.

nynaevelan wrote:

knightbright wrote: H - w did a thread about the "Women of The Unit" turn into a discussion of what region of the US you live in and weather conditions? We have an Off Topic category for that.

And we have this one and we are going to finish our conversation. Nyn

knightbright wrote: I see.It's no wonder there has been a drop in members posting on this board.

knightbright wrote:

nynaevelan wrote: [ - uote=knightbright]H - w did a thread about the "Women of The Unit" turn into a discussion of what region of the US you live in and weather conditions? We have an Off Topic category for that.

And we have this one and we are going to finish our conversation. Nyn

BlackJade12 wrote: It is hard for me to watch the Women of The Unit, I am a daughter of a retMGYSGT of the USMC, and I have always been tought to Love and respect the man, but honor the Marine. I just wish the women would show more backbone in their duties as military spouses. Am sorry, but If I was one of the writers of the show, I would give Mac his own affair with a strong, smart, beautiful women of color. Now that would make for interesting twist in the story line. What would Tiffany do once she found out, and what would the rest of the Unit think of Mac's new found interest? And how would MAC handle the personal issue of cheating? Two can play the cheating game, but only one will win. Tell me what you think?

BlackJade12 wrote: I would like the writers to turn up the heat by adding real world events, just like JAG. Most of the trials on JAG were based on real events. Kidnappings in Mexico, Bombings in India, Terrorist threats in the US, Illegals persons plotting to take down the US government, Russian threats from Cuba. These are all good ideas to keep the show going. Adding new faces without losing the team. Guest appearences from real life UNIT members. Maybe doing joint missions with different countries not just in the Middle East. Frankly, I am tired of the team heading over to the middle east, there are other problems in the world. What do you think?

Dagger_X-Ray wrote: First of all, I am fondest of Kim Brown (I loved the skin-tight wetsuit scene in the sub dream...purrrrrr). I myself dislike how much the women have been brought into the dialogue of the shows lately, if they were military veterans themselves and being used due to their previous training then maybe I could get into it more. The opening theme music in the current season “S U C K S”. This is a military based show, the cadence version of the 1st seasons show was more appropriate and better suited...and speaking of suits, what’s with them being in suits in the new opening? Once again, these guys are Special Operations soldiers with Ranger and Green Beret Spec Ops training, not CIA undercover operatives. Get the show back out into the field where it’s supposed to be, send them into TODAY'S WORLD here and there. Why aren't they hunting down supposed Taliban or Al Qaeda leaders in Pakistan or Iran? Why not project this unit into some real world situations? Keep the show interesting, I guarantee most of its following are made up of Active duty soldiers, reserve, guard, veterans and wanna-be’s that could not enlist for whatever reason. We are here and we want the show to live. Don't let it fall to the way-side like the show "Over There" which was very realistic in some ways yet not in others.Hoo-AhhDagger X-Ray OUT1st Infantry Division -Persian Gulf Veteran

piccard1898 wrote: I have found the wives annoying for the most part (some more than others).Unfortunately the writers/producers are now including the wives in "missions", thus giving them larger roles in the show.I find myself fast-forewarding through about 1/4 of the show now (during the wife scenes). If the trend continues and the wife roles increase any more, I will tire of the fast-foreward and I will be tuning out.This would be a real shame, because I really enjoy the characters (guys) and the missions.There are enough shows out there targeted towards women. Why mess up a great "guy" show and turn it into something mediocre to make it more appealing to women.Of course I am making an assumption here, but I can't imagine that other guys watching this show are yearning for a larger role for the wives.

piccard1898 wrote: Please don't tell me you actually believe the purpose of the show is to "honor our men". The purpose is to make $.

ShiningHorse wrote: First, Happy New Year!!! Second, I like the show with the women as supporting characters. Like I've said before, this is a man's show and I am ok with that. Clearly, so are a lot of other women. Trying to change show direction has created a lot of discord on this board and with the show's audience and I think CBS regrettably realizes that. I think they (The Unit) are getting back on the right track and I hope the ladies of the show are not upset about many viewers wanting them to remain as supporting characters. Their roles are very important to the show and they should not feel minimized by the outcry for them to remain as support. Just my 2 cents, again. ShiningHorse

wendek wrote: Just curious, why are women not allowed in The Unit as operators?

mxmartinifan wrote:

wendek wrote: Just curious, why are women not allowed in The Unit as operators?

My curiosity would be, if they did allow women in The Unit, what woman would want to?

wendek wrote: , not to mention the whole hormonal thing... (i could see some woman come blazing out of the bushes blasting everything in sight because it's a full moon or something.)

nynaevelan wrote:

wendek wrote: , not to mention the whole hormonal thing... (i could see some woman come blazing out of the bushes blasting everything in sight because it's a full moon or something.)

Because I promised myself that 2009 would be more peaceful and Zenful for me, I will NOT comment on the offensiveness of this statement, but just know you have a tongue lashing due from me. Nyn

wendek wrote: Just curious, why are women not allowed in The Unit as operators?

wendek wrote:

nynaevelan wrote:

- endek wrote: , not to mention the whole hormonal thing... (i could see some woman come blazing out of the bushes blasting everything in sight because it's a full moon or something.)

Because I promised myself that 2009 would be more peaceful and Zenful for me, I will NOT comment on the offensiveness of this statement, but just know you have a tongue lashing due from me. Nyn

I'm sorry Nyn, i never meant to offend and i can go edit my previous message if that is best, please advise. I know i have felt those hormone driven urges and only spoke from experience of wanting to decimate everything in my path at rare times. I am sorry to have offended anyone here, that is not my desire whatsoever.

kcmci wrote: And forget the whole politically correct stuff, women have different hygiene issues. "Excuse me, can you pull the Humvee over so I can pee behind that rock?" - we cannot pee in an empty water bottle as well as a man though I guess they could wear adult diapers but I'd rather not. And there is that monthly menstruation issue for most of them. "Ooops, gotta change my tampon, I'm flooding out. Can you get someone else to cover your six while I find a public restroom?"

wendek wrote: Just curious, why are women not allowed in The Unit as operators?

mxmartinifan wrote: My curiosity would be, if they did allow women in The Unit, what woman would want to?

kcmci wrote: ...women have different hygiene issues. "Excuse me, can you pull the Humvee over so I can pee behind that rock?" - we cannot pee in an empty water bottle as well as a man though I guess they could wear adult diapers but I'd rather not. And there is that monthly menstruation issue for most of them. "Ooops, gotta change my tampon, I'm flooding out. Can you get someone else to cover your six while I find a public restroom?" "I'm PMSing - give me chocolate or I will shoot you!"

wendek wrote: Jonas cheating on Molly was hard to see. I do recall the guys talking about "not being married overseas" and clinking their beer bottles in a different episode. i think it was Grey and Mack, Jonas just looked at them or something. still, another reason to not be married and part of the Unit. I mean, why buy the cow, if you're going to get the milk all over town.

Quartermanic wrote: I hear women fake it all the time. I'm not sure either how he could have gotten out of it, the woman really didn't seem like she wanted to find a way out though did she? I guess, who can blame her. She wouldn't let it go, even when she came back for another episode.

wendek wrote: i wonder how he could have gotten out of it, considering "they" were watching the goings on.

nynaevelan wrote: Of course just because we saw them having that passionate kiss and her and Jonas in the shower together, and him showing remorse does not mean they actually had sex. Heck, he could have been showing remorse because he didn't do the horizontal mambo with her.Nyn

Oh Nyn...poor poor Nyn. They did have sex. Remember when they were trying to escape abd he told her to propell herself down the cliff using a rope or something and she said she couldn't? Then he said I know what will make you feel good or you'll like this or something like that. I will have to re-watch that episode to get the lines right. Also remember the man they were spying on recorded their trist. He's dead now but I bet that tape ain't. There was a nother early episode when Jonas was on mission and a caucasion woman from the TOC came to his & Molly's home to bring Molly his wedding band. Molly just acted like it was an after thought, took it and closed the door on the woman.That's all my commentary for tonight. I am too sleepy to write more. I'm going to bed.ShiningHorse

wendek wrote: wasnt' that the same episode, the sex over seas and the ring delivery to Molly.

zou2 wrote: Let's see, Sexy Dennis playing sexy Jonas maybe havine Sex with a hot Latina .....Nope, no idea why you're still talking about it.

nynaevelan wrote: How do you know she was not pissed because he rejected her advances? And I thank you not to try to break my delusions. Jonas DID NOT have sex with the Latin hottie, that's my story and I am going to stick with it until I see proof... Nyn

ksalanpang wrote: Kim is considered as heart and soul for the show in my opinion.

OzUnit wrote: Looks like the men actually play little part at all.So much for the person who wanted to fire the women.

OzUnit wrote: ...I dont know what they will do with her now that her and Mack have exchanged confessionals and she will really now have to go straight or go to AA meetings ...Adulterers Anon.

OzUnit wrote: I hope her buddy from the club is brought into the circle and storylines, even though shes not a Unit wife, only a Unit date, at this stage.

auburnhead33 wrote: Annie from the club was not relocated with the wives. They would have to return to Ft. Griffith for her to be back in the script. Just wondering if you would rather see Charlie with Annie or the new love interest of his--Joss?

auburnhead33 wrote: Annie from the club was not relocated with the wives. They would have to return to Ft. Griffith for her to be back in the script. Just wondering if you would rather see Charlie with Annie or the new love interest of his--Joss?

neatneice wrote:

i would rather not see the women on missions. there is so much story out the for women on the homefront. and tiffy needs to stay faithful to her man. molly is great the way she is. the show just need to get everybody back to ft. griffith where they belong.

Hear!! Hear!!

Now where's that continutiy person we need... oh different thread...

I wish they had consulted us and we would have told them to keep the OLDguy.

Nyn

Everytime a fan posted a message about "there are no women in the unit", I posted "they never said she was in the unit". But they kept showing her WITH the unit therefore viewers beleived she WAS in the unit. It wasn't so much the production pushing RC in the unit. It was what the viewer saw and thought.

Wen is right. They never really made her unit specific. She has always been seen supporting the unit.

Yes, women can be in Special Operations Forces just not as operators. There are a lot of support jobs, primarily in intel, logistics, and comm that can be performed by women.As for Delta Force, yes the Army has admitted its existence-that was a couple years ago now-as Operational Detachment Delta 1SFG(A). However they will not reveal its organization, numbers and assigned/current missions; as they should not. Guys like Tom Clancy and conspiracy theorists love that part of it, but it's simply to protect the members-and their families.

Source(s):Retired LtColI

found this on the net. That's exactly what Red Cap is doing now. Give her some love! Roo, get her to interview before the end of season 4

Wow, think they'll let you interview her now, Roobaby? that would be nice.

Does Nicole Steinwedell have the mettle to stand tough alongside the likes of Jonas Blane & Co.? TVGuide.com invited The Unit 's newest cast member to make a case for intelligence officer Bridget Sullivan being worthy of becoming the team's fist female member. Plus: What it was like flirting up a storm with Dawson's pal Pacey. The Unit returns Sunday at 10 pm, on CBS; for more scoop, read Regina Taylor's TVGuide.com blog .) - Matt Mitovich

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TVGuide.com: When we meet Bridget on Sunday, has she been working with the Unit for some time? Nicole Steinwedell: She's been undercover for 18 months, so she's never worked with them before, just by correspondence. She's first meeting the guys. TVGuide.com: The Unit can have female team members? Steinwedell: It can, indeed. We have a technical advisor join the show this year who just retired from Delta Force. He was able to share with the writers, "You bet your booty we have women in the unit." And they are the most effective operatives, for two reasons: Not only are the good for recon or undercover work because they're women and it's not expected, but also a woman's mind works differently, and that's always a value. My grandfather was a colonel in the Army and my parents were both marines, so for me to go on this show and have it be legitimate was reassuring.

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TVGuide.com: Your character bio describes Bridget as "constantly surprising." How so? Steinwedell: Like you suggested, women aren't supposed to be in the Unit, or people underestimate their strength or fortitude. She illustrates the "constantly surprising" in the first episode by being resourcefulness in the line of duty and under pressure. She keeps on surprising them with her education and her ability to help out in certain situations.

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TVGuide.com: Brains are nice and all, but do you get to kick any **** in early episodes? Steinwedell: Oh yeah. She's got brawn, too. She's able to handle the heat in a combat situation, which is why at the end of Episode 1 she's invited to join the team. TVGuide.com: How is her love life? Steinwedell: We don't know yet. She's very professional with the boys. Obviously, in any professional situation there's a certain amount of tension between the opposite sex especially if they're attractive. But you don't cross that line because it's important not to.

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TVGuide.com: Do the Unit wives know of Bridget's existence? Steinwedell: They do by Episode 2. And in that episode, I'm with the wives for the entire time. I take care of them and relay the Colonel's wishes to the women. The writers named my character Bridget because she's going to be a "bridge" between the men and the women. So I'm lucky, I get to act with the guys and the girls.

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TVGuide.com: She doesn't raise any of the ladies' hackles? Steinwedell: Not as of yet. There's a raised eyebrow or two and some "We don't trust you yet," but so far, no major drama. TVGuide.com: You cut your teeth on Dawson's Creek . How has it been seeing some of your former cast mates go on to do the things they have done? Steinwedell: Oh, it's been interesting. That was my first job in Hollywood and I had watched Dawson's Creek in high school, so it was sort of surreal. Joshua [Jackson] was incredibly sweet to me, and very helpful one educating me on how to work with things. I was so new, it was ridiculous - I was such a dork! And it was so great because he's super-tall. I'm 5' 11", so I didn't feel like I had to crouch down and be petite. I could stand up next to him and flirt to my heart's content! [ Laughs ]

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The Unit is a show that flies comfortably under the radar. It’s fan base, to which I proudly belong, is loyal and endures the tumult that comes from the show’s unpredictable 10pm Sunday time slot. Despite the occasional gap in programming, Season Four is chugging along nicely thanks to some interesting changes to the series: The Unit moved off the military base and is operating undercover, the season has a continuing storyline involving some pesky terrorists, and the soldiers are starting to deal with the personal demons that have plagued them on countless missions. Oh yeah, and there’s a girl in The Unit now.

Bridget “Red Cap” Sullivan joins up with The Unit in the season’s premiere and has been quite an integral player ever since. I had the opportunity to chat with the up-and-coming actress playing Red Cap, Nicole Steinwedell.

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Nicole Steinwedell: I heard about the audition for the new character in the summer. Previously to that I had been in a showcase for the Atlantic Theater, and David Mamet, who’s the creator of The Unit , had come to see the show…because his daughter was in the class. And–this is actually really funny–she was a student of mine before I even knew she was David Mamet’s daughter; I was a math tutor… so randomly we knew each other for like three years, but I didn’t know that her dad was somebody that I revered.

Then later her father came to the show and he was very complimentary, and was like “Oh my God, you’re such a great actress but we’re on a strike so I can’t really do anything.” And I was like, “No, don’t worry! I’m sure it’ll end.” Then I started sending him my headshot and stuff…

Six months later… I wrote him a letter and I said my parents were both in the Marine Corps; my mom outranked my dad; my grandfather was a colonel in the Army; I know how to do this part, it’s in my blood–give me a shot. And he did!

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MR: Was the character of Bridget Sullivan (AKA “Red Cap&rdquo already set in stone, or did they sort of mold it around who you were and your strengths?

NS: I’m not that cool yet where they would design a character around me–I’m very new. But, I know that this kind of a girl needed to be somebody like me, who doesn’t always want to lead first with her looks or her Hollywood ability… but also [someone] who could act, who could command power in a room, who could lead, who could deal with being around all the boys, but someone who knew how to play her sexuality card when needed in… very interesting situations. And in that way, I think Red Cap is way more advanced than I am; I think I still struggle sometimes being a girl in Hollywood… she’s much more able to view the feminine aspect of herself as a great weapon that can be used to wield power over bad guys.

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NS: Yeah, I would definitely want to be heroic, and a leader with a voice as a human being, more than like a pretty, pretty princess. Although I do want to be a pretty princess. I know that it’s too short lived for an actress to just be that, and I never thought of being on a military show… but this is the perfect start for me, and I think I was ready for it, and they were ready for me. And they already have some stuff laid out for the character…

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MR: Speaking of the character of Red Cap, and what the producers had in mind, can you tell me a little bit about the character’s backstory? She shows up in the first episode of Season Four already undercover on her own sort of mission, and then is asked to join The Unit.

NS: Speaking with a couple of our technical advisors, Pete Blaber and Tim Clemente, both of them have helped me structure what an actual women who participates in Delta Force would look like. She is somebody who is a warrant officer in the Army. That means she outranks all of them just in terms of the whole structure of the Army. She definitely outranks them, but the reason is that she’s a specialist. Her specialty is in language and recon. Now that’s a little broad, but that’s because it’s TV. In real life it would be “languages” or “espionage.” It would be one or the other…

So she was a warrant officer that we [Steinwedell and ex-Delta Force member Peter Blaber] said was probably in Task Force Orange–that is a sub-division of the Army that is underneath Delta Force. Of course, nobody really talks about Delta Force and there being women involved; it’s still very controversial that we’re having that…

The point is, they don’t ask me to be a part of The Unit, I ask to help because in that first episode I’ve been undercover for five months working with an Arab arms dealer. Jonas comes in to take him out, and I have infiltrated the ranks to get him into position for Delta to take out. So when I come back and there’s this assault on the Vice President, and the President-Elect, they’re out of people because everybody’s under suspicion… The colonel ends up saying “Alright, I’ll use you.” And I’ve just been all sorts of useful; I’m more useful than I know what to do with…

And also, reading Pete Blaber’s book, he talks about the women [in the military], and the truth is we aren’t like other operators. We can’t infiltrate Iraq and Afghanistan… but in missions that require recon or undercover work women are key. The reason is obvious: I mean, two really well-built men walking down the street with sunglasses on look so conspicuous, but a man and a women almost anywhere in the world could be on a honeymoon, the girl could be a prostitute, the girl could be a local because she’s covered in head-to-toe depending on the garb of the location. So a women is now more disarming in certain situations than men, and that is just a reality that I am still dealing with myself.

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MR: In an upcoming episode, your character has to deal with the issue of sexual assault…

NS: It’s a very relevant topic, and [relates to] a lot of what Bridget has been dealing with in being accepted or not by the boys… [One of the characters] is going to get inappropriate. And it’s like, what does happen when you put the opposite sex on the team? And what it does to the dynamic… if there was somebody who wasn’t right in the head, or if there was somebody who just didn’t find it necessary to respect someone’s personal boundaries. What would happen?…

The other thing is, we don’t know a lot about Bridget’s personal life as of yet… of course there’s sexual attraction, an interpersonal connection that starts with some people and not others, but what happens if it goes too far? And also the whole idea of people who are so incredibly fit and used to aggression and violence and having strength; can it turn ugly, and why? It’s kind of heavy for TV.

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MR: Well I was very happy to hear that you’re filming more episodes. You guys get bumped around a lot on Sunday nights with your new schedule. I think one night you were usurped by a Hallmark movie…

NS: I know! It’s so weird, because I don’t think we have poor numbers. We’ve been having great numbers. What do you make of that?

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MR: You guys have a very dedicated following and I guess they’re willing to endure strange scheduling and everything. Do you guys have a full season planned?

NS: Yes! We go 22 episodes… our last day of shooting is April 3rd… and we won’t find out until the end of May if we’re lucky enough to have a Season Five.

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MR: The show is filmed almost entirely in California, right?

NS: That’s correct, yes. We shoot out of Santa Clarita and on location sometimes downtown.

NS: I think that the hard part is on the set designers, the editors, and the cinematographers so things look varied. I actually think that’s one of the beauties of Southern California… because we have so many different environments so close by: we have a beach, we have the mountains, we have the desert… it’s really a tribute to the people who are in the art department. As far as the actors getting into it, it’s no problem at all. I do wish I got to travel to all those cool places. That would be awesome.

The Last Nazi was filmed on the Universal backlot, and it looked totally like Switzerland. It didn’t look like Universal at all; which sometimes, if you watch enough television and films, you can see Universal backlots.

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MR: So throughout the production of each episode, how involved is David Mamet?

NS: Unfortunately he’s not on set every week… throughout the year [each episode] goes through him… he contributes as a writer, and edits scripts… reviews scripts and ideas, but he’s more like our overseer. I haven’t seen him in a really long time. But you just hope you’re doing okay, you know?

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MR: Do you have any projects lined up outside of The Unit?

NS: I just shot a small part in Tom Ford’s first movie, which was great fun… it’s called A Single Man and it stars Colin Firth and Julianne Moore and Matthew Goode… that will be coming out in the Fall, if not the Winter, next year.

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MR: Thank you very much, Nicole, for taking the time to talk with me!

Photo: Sonja Flemming/CBS. C2008 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved

nynaevelan wrote:

This link from a forum post on her imdb.com page: www.tvverdict.com/2009/02/25/t
he-units-new-recruit-an-inter v iew-with-nicole-steinwedell/

That was a recent interview.I thought it was done early in the season. All in all, it's not a bad interview. She spoke well.

I do not have your advantage and lately we have been seeing her as much as the wives, or should I say as little. What is up with that?? If she is going to be the "in-field" Kayla, they need to give her a bigger role.

I checked out "joss" , comparo to "Annie",

no- Annie- easily.

ksalanpang wrote:

hehe. I like hector, he's funny and all. Especially when he impersonate col. ryan!! Life and death is all on the line for the team. I don't think '5 brothers' and 'Play 16' would be good and dramatic if nobody KIA. They should put Red Cap as the regular and soon be Sam. They deserve it. Red Cap saved the team in Syria by risking her career and possibly the country's security just to get them out. Kim should invite her over for supper. We basically don't know anything about her. Her character is a bit shallow, it needs a back story of some kind of to make her shine . She's fine at what she's doing now. Situation monitoring and provide background support is crucial in any mission

I don't know why it bothers me that your used the word SHINE in your little statement for Redcap, but it does. The one & only, ShiningHorse

Dang it!!! I just lost my entire post...and it was a good one too.

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Anyways, I was saying. As I mentioned in another post, I like the "new" RC and her reactions. Her interaction is a little better, if they must have her in the field with the men. I am not really that interested in character back story lines. They could just have them chit chatting or "shooting the breeze" over a few beers or at lunch and she can tell her brief story. That's it. No long drawn out crapola or daydreams. Remember when the guys were on the plane with Lenny and they were just sitting there? That is a perfect time for somebody to tell their short story. Even during prep for a mission they can just be talking, ya know. Like real people do. I don't want any time taken away from missions/training/or guy time or neglect the wives anymore from their support roles. Just a brief story if only to appease some fans.

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That's all I can remember from my lost post. Man I am so ticked off. It was really good. I hate when that happens.

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While I do not want to know as much info as K, I also do not want to know as little as SH. I wouldn't mind a little background as it's relevant to the mission or when they are off duty as they've done in the past. LikeinOutsiderswhen they are in the bowling alley and Mack is approached by the guy Crystal told about TU. That gave us just enough info for the mission. Sorry, but I do not want any chat fests, if they want to do something like they did in Season 1 when the ladies were entertaining the Senator and they had that brief scene with them sitting on the counter, that is good enough for me. Once again sorry because I could care less about her past relationships, her DoD past is ok as long as it's relevant to the story at hand. I say all this to say, give her the same back story, or lack thereof, as they do for all the other cast members.Other than Bob, Ryanand the one or two with Jonas, we really haven't had any background storylines for any of the team members and just the one on Molly. Personally, I do not think we need to get into all that, that is wayyyyyyy tooooooooo soap-opery for me. Is soap-opery a word??

nynaevelan wrote:

Is soap-opery a word??

It works for me.

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ksalanpang wrote:

i think 'soapy' would do LOLI guess I must have watched too much Lost that's why I wanted to know more about individual characters so much. I shouldn't put the team on a mysterious island XDI think 'Natural Selection' is the best flashback character drill down in the series. Didn't I just say flashback XD that word is almost patterned for Lost only. To add on to the background storylines, there's one for Kim (when she met her ex-boyfriend) at an local airport. There's one with Molly's, her real dad is in jail as well as a recent one in 'Into Hell 2' where her daughter Betsy and her with a car broken down in a dark quiet street. Those are the memorable ones that I could think of for now.

Now that format works for me, the one with Kim gave you some insight into her past without it being too unnecessary. Except for the nosiness of Kim, Tiffy and Annie the one for Molly's background would have made sense if they were going to have a follow-up story but since the writer's dropped it, we could have done without it. The best was for Betsy in Into Hell 2, I loved the way we saw the same thing from Molly's and Betsy's point of view. I wouldn't mind something similar for any of the other members, without using the exact same formula. And yes K, you have been watching too much Lost because Lost gives so much backstory that I am Lost.

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BTW: Why do I keep seeing all those stars on my posts, is someone censoring me? Now I am getting as paranoid as SH...

nyn - i think the stars are if someone really likes what you had wrote. they can rate your comments . i hope i'm making sense.

neatneice wrote:

nyn - i think the stars are if someone really likes what you had wrote. they can rate your comments . i hope i'm making sense.

NN: I understand what they are, I was curious who is doing it. I barely had that comment in, went to another topic and came back and I was rated. Do people really care what I have to say? Personally, I get the feeling that I am publicly writing to myself.

nynaevelan wrote:

neatneice wrote:

nyn - i think the stars are if someone really likes what you had wrote. they can rate your comments . i hope i'm making sense.

NN: I understand what they are, I was curious who is doing it. I barely had that comment in, went to another topic and came back and I was rated. Do people really care what I have to say? Personally, I get the feeling that I am publicly writing to myself.

well to me you and roo appear to be some of the most loyal and knowledgeble tu fans out there.with maybe a few others thrown in. maybe some others feel the same way.

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The Webmaster really needs to fix the formatting on this website, it keeps moving my "I's" next to the next word without the spacing. I do not understand how they can own tv.com and have that running so perfectly and they cannot get the simplest things done right here...

wendek wrote:

Maybe the writer's could post a little blurb on each character's back story, et al. Unless they've done that already and i haven't been paying attention. Something like a Character Bio on the About page simialr to the actor's bio on the Cast Page.

Now that is a good idea, just a brief statement nothing too specific that would interfere with future stories. If only they would listen to this one...

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ksalanpang wrote:

i haven't given stars to people for a long time except the one I gave to CBS-Admin2 for the annoucement for 8th mar episode. I gave some to Nyn a while ago to boost her star rating up a bit after a couple of punks rated her with one star.

Gee, ya think with all the work I put to promo their show, CBS could give me a special star. I'll take Betty Blue first and if he's not available, Dirt Diver, Cool Breeze, SnakeDoc and Whiplash in that order.

But wait...this is the Women of The Unit Board! Then better make that Molly, Kim, Tiff and ifnone of them are available Joss. Someone has to give her some insight to BB.

Wendek, that is a great idea!!! That would take care of the need for some to have the back story info on characters. You are a genius. I hope CBS takes your advice and does that!!!

wendek wrote:

Maybe the writer's could post a little blurb on each character's back story, et al. Unless they've done that already and i haven't been paying attention. Something like a Character Bio on the About page simialr to the actor's bio on the Cast Page.

Perhaps someone could post one or two grabs on youtube!!

OzUnit wrote:

Perhaps the box sets have interviews like that in the extras.

Perhaps someone could post one or two grabs on youtube!!

Wouldn't that be a copyright violation??

We at home can sit and discuss the Unit because we are at home. There are thousands of military wives across the country that could relate to every word. You don't hear from them, you don't know where they are or for sure when they will be home. You rely on the others in your group to help you out when there is a problem. Like the (hopefully) new gal on the block considering marriage to the military she got the raw truth.

This show however not the real deal is very similar and I love it. The Col. this week was a real jerk and played it so well!!!! Please stop making negatives about this show leaving. I know hundreds who watch it and we gab on the phone about it too.

Actually I'm an ex military housewife myself and I think these woman really do portray the wives. The ones that are doing what they're supposed to be doing anyway. Supporting and loving the guys that have a really hard job. Some of the younger ones, yeah there's problems just like any marriage. Anyways these women are strong and make me miss being a military housewife...of course I'd pick another husband this time

chikysexktn wrote:

Actually I'm an ex military housewife myself and I think these woman really do portray the wives. The ones that are doing what they're supposed to be doing anyway. Supporting and loving the guys that have a really hard job. Some of the younger ones, yeah there's problems just like any marriage. Anyways these women are strong and make me miss being a military housewife...of course I'd pick another husband this time

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chikysexktn wrote:

Actually I'm an ex military housewife myself and I think these woman really do portray the wives. The ones that are doing what they're supposed to be doing anyway. Supporting and loving the guys that have a really hard job. Some of the younger ones, yeah there's problems just like any marriage. Anyways these women are strong and make me miss being a military housewife...of course I'd pick another husband this time

live4law wrote:

chikysexktn wrote:

Actually I'm an ex military housewife myself and I think these woman really do portray the wives. The ones that are doing what they're supposed to be doing anyway. Supporting and loving the guys that have a really hard job. Some of the younger ones, yeah there's problems just like any marriage. Anyways these women are strong and make me miss being a military housewife...of course I'd pick another husband this time

That's another good point. People who have not lived the military life, base housing, deployments etc, cannot understand that this is reality for thousands of Marines, Navy, Army, Coast Guard etc. The women of the unit do remind the military families of what was, what is and what will be in the families of military members.

On another note, we should be seeing more of Joss tonight. Not sure how I'm going to like her, but it is too early to judge. Got to see how it all plays out.

What an interesting tradition.

I really agree with this quote. I mean , who says that anybody is "supposed" to act any kinda way? I can't stand Charlotte and maybe if Ryan (Ryan's writer) would stop thinking he should be with a woman like blah blah blah, he would finally find a woman to be his match. A real woman, not some ole fakey skank. I will not let any man, woman or child make me be what they want...I am who I am...and I'm a LADY that cuss', d a m n it! Well, not often, just online... mostly.

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lamb1256 wrote:

I watch this show all the time and love the women. We all have our crosses to bare. I am tired of reading how these women don't live up to others expections. They are people not object who should just do as they are told. They all have thier husbands backs. I would love to see a man who is supporting a woman who is a member of the unit and see how the writers will play that out. That in itself would be a real challenge.

It's great to hear from the military wives and the former military wives! I've never been in the mliitary and never been a military wife. But I can sure appreciate and thank you for YOUR sacrafices. I know you've had some.

An AF wife told me that you praise in public and complain in private. I think the wives on this show were doing that in earlier seasons whenEric Haney was involved.

Keep watching! Scroll down to the bottom of this window and click on User Feedback and tellCBS that you are a mlitary wife and that you want the show renewed. (If you want it renewed.) They NEEDto hear from you!

live4law wrote:

The UNIT is my favorite show on TV and there are a lot of CBS shows I watch. The last episode where the women of the unit were discussing married life and the acting was like sitting around with a bunch of Marine wives. Those of you who do not know the milityar spouse life should watch this again. and again. and again.

We at home can sit and discuss the Unit because we are at home. There are thousands of military wives across the country that could relate to every word. You don't hear from them, you don't know where they are or for sure when they will be home. You rely on the others in your group to help you out when there is a problem. Like the (hopefully) new gal on the block considering marriage to the military she got the raw truth.

This show however not the real deal is very similar and I love it. The Col. this week was a real jerk and played it so well!!!! Please stop making negatives about this show leaving. I know hundreds who watch it and we gab on the phone about it too.

angel_in_la wrote:

Actually, I really liked the scene with the women working on Joss' wedding. I never knew that when they get married they have the 6 soldiers with swords and that the one hits the new bride on the behind and says "Welcome To The Army".

What an interesting tradition.

it is cool to see "history and tradition" portrayed on TV even if it is just a tv show and we know that's not all reality.

I have watched the show since its inception, having read the book when it came out, and having contact with Mr. Eric Haney, as I am in the military.I believe that some of the women, or most of the them, are each portraying a stereotypical version of an military wife. This is not a bad thing, but all of them do not have issues. I think the show must do this for each of them, in order to have people have an interest in each of their lives.The only aspect that I can stand, and I believe many people share this, is that Kim Brown seems to still not get it at times. For a wife of someone in an elite force and knowing what he does, she is very dumb at times. Some episodes she comes off as a strong one, then others melts down (which I think is the way they play it). Although very annoying, I guess it shows vulnerability and how people can lose their cool, no matter what is at stake, which is a reflection of real life.

My personal opinion: The wives/husbands that are home supporting their significant others in combat, deserve the medals, not me.