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Kmonishi — GMT

Tonight, you lost an entire family because of Sara's unlikeable vocabulary. We had to mute a lot of the show's dialogue because she was in the scene. If you want broad appeal to college students and families across America, you need to tone this character down, and get rid of SO MANY sexual references. We LOVED the episode where Sheldon is sick with flu. Hilarious!

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freakinroo — GMT

Love her, don't change a thing

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s_c3kA_4hG — GMT

do not change her character. Maybe your kids should learn about sexual references for when they step foot outside your house and enter the real world. Honestly, I see just as many sexual references in commercials.

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duttycalls — GMT

Sorry Sara Gilbert plays these roles so well. She is a good actress and works well with these characters. Do not change anything about her character. She is Sheldon's albatross and everyone needs one.

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walowizard — GMT

If you feel so strongly about the sexual references then maybe it'd be best if you told your children that the show is for them. After all it's no fault of CBS if they create a character you feel is too strong for your children. I grew up watching sitcoms like Fraiser and Seinfeld, which are both rife with sexual innuendos, and I turned out just fine.

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selena528 — GMT

TBBT is not being marketed as a family friendly sitcom anyway. Their target audience is not the same as Family Ties or Growing Pains.

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beezee87 — GMT

I love her dry sense of humor and sarcasm - she plays well off of Sheldon.

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Laurie1986 — GMT

CBS sitcoms are targeted at adults. It is not the job of prime time television to parent your children. If you don't approve of them watching it, don't let them watch it. Tape it and watch it after they go to bed. I agree that the writing is well done for the adults that are watching it and should not be censored.

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gjr1228 — GMT

maybe her and leonard should run away, then they both would be off the show. I hate his face.

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aspergiancat — GMT

Aspergian female honesty and bluntnessincludes references to sex. It is central to portraying her character. I agree, keep her character as written and continue to expand it. I love that the neurotypicals are the minority in this show!

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beezee87 — GMT

Interesting use of word - "neurotypicals" Dictionary.com says: pertaining to autistic persons whose neurological development and function is within the normal range; also called neurologically typical, Do you mean people of "average" intelligence, perhaps "intellectually challenged?"

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fiyeon — GMT

I see too much of Sara Gilbert’s trashy Rosanne character Darlene in Leslie Winkle. It’s not the writing that bothers me, it’s the actress.

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kittencbad — GMT

I totally hate this character! She is so nasty and unlikeable that I wished the writers would just forget her and leave her in the lab! The idea of a foil for Sheldon but Leslie Winkle isn't that character.

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Vincentia — GMT

I, too, don't really see what Leslie adds to the show. It really feels like the character is just a vehicle to get Sara Gilbert into the cast. But the cast that was already there does fine without her.If CBS needs Sara in a show, maybe they should just build another sitcom around her, and leave her out of TBBT completely.And yes, her bad mouth and sex talk turn me completely off, as well. This is why I have quit watching HIMYM and Two and a Half Men. I would not want to lose TBBT, but if it comes down to it, I'll go back to my I Love Lucy and Honeymooners and Andy Griffith Show DVDs. You don't have to fill a sitcom with blatant sexual references and bad language to be funny. If that's what it takes to bring enjoyment to the current generation, then we've become quite poorer for it.

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shamrock9876 — GMT

She is the perfect enemy for Sheldon. She is great

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gingin6 — GMT

When I'm watching these full episodes, I keep getting bombarded with Viagraads. Really now that's annoying and BBT is just plain funny. They're young andin their prime so it's natural for them to be curious and talk about it. I don't seeanything wrong with it. It's just too funny. If you don't like it, mute it like yousaid. Honestly the more your teens learn, maybe they'll wait till they're married ormuch much much older. Ha. That was old school and now it's out there rather it'son tv or at school. Sara character is great the way she is. It's so true though that Sheldon can be a dumb ass. I would like to see her and Leo have a better relationship. She's fickleand it seems there's a one sided point here. Making her out to be wanting onething from Leo. So she needs to have more character. There's still yet we don'tknow much about her since we don't see her all the time like Kaley's role.I saw Kaley get punked. It was funny.

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GoodmanBeav — GMT

The BBT is perfect as is! I hope the Brits are working on their own version, since we've borrowed so many sitcom ideas from them over the years. I have a feeling they'd love it.Also -- If the fundies are complaining, the writers are doing something right.

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maylara24 — GMT

I like the Leslie character, but it's so one-note. I mean, every time she's in a cafeteria scene with the guys, we know what's going to happen: insult Sheldon, a few lines with the guys, insult Sheldon again. I am trying to remember why she hates Sheldon so much. I think he made some sexist comments about her being a physisist. I'd like to see more scenes with her and Sheldon alone exploring that argument!

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gingin6 — GMT

They seem to get into it over the science thing. They just couldn't agree andSheldon does come off with some idiotic socialism spats.

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of_the_shire — GMT

First of all, I'm SO thankful that people out there are even bothered that there's a bit too much sex in the show; yes, there is hope for our society! Who-hoo!Yes, sexual discussion is a part of life, and yes, this show is definitely not geared for children, and probably shouldn't be watched by most teens. The characters theoretically should represent the audience, hence, the audience should probably be college age and up, simply because of this issue.I watch the show for one reason: nerd/geek humor. This show has nailed that perfectly. Last night's episode was a great example of this, with the "Lizard-Spock" added to "Rock-Paper-Scissors." I watch this show because the characters, in a very general sense, reflect me and my friends, though admittedly, I don't personally know a "Wolowitz," or a "Sheldon." Sheldon's definitely the heart of the show, or rather his interactions with Penny, which contribute primarily to the energy and emotion of the narrative. For a story to mean anything, literally (as in, the context of literature, art, drama, etc.) a character needs to grow. In "The Big Bang Theory" the protagonist Leonard grows, yes, but Sheldon is the challenge, and I expect stretching his growth and development throughout the series will be the driving force in the plot. I can't wait to see the girl that's going to be too much for him to handle. Can anyone imagine what a love-struck Sheldon will be like? (Yes, I've seen the episode where he walks out with Raj's date, but he wasn't exactly romantically smitten then.)That being said, why does this show need to be a watered-down version of "American Pie?!" I mean, COME ON people, Hollywood has done the "nerdy-guy-trying-to-get-a-gir l" plot enough!!! I want more substance than just sexual innuendo, followed by more clear references to sex. This is an intellectual show, causing viewers to have to remember science terms they haven't heard since high school physiology, and has the potential for really broadening people's minds. The writers don't need sex jokes to hook people into watching "TBBT;" they've already done that with the characters' and the personalities set up in season 1. I hope they don't drop the ball with this show and turn it into yet another "Friends"-like sitcom.Conclusion: Sure, they could rewrite Leslie Winkle, but they shouldn't soften her antagonism to Sheldon. But also, several other characters have the same moral issues in regards to audience. Here's hoping.

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Michele665 — GMT

Wow. Does everyone always have to be so picky? Why can't we just enjoy the show for what it is? The writers aren't trying to do ANYTHING. They are just writing it the way they see it. Its a GOOD show. Okay?! Its a GREAT show, and if you are going to analyze it for every little thing, then i think you should just stop watching TV altogether. Because in all honesty, every show is going to have something that someone is 'really against', just because a character says or does something. But a great show doesn't go by what the world wants. It goes by what the writers visualize. For what they wanted to make it.

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of_the_shire — GMT

Television is an extension of film, which is an extension of drama, which is the basis of narrative art and storytelling, therefore, TV is ART. If that isn't worth analyzing, then what is?I care about what I watch. It's like food. I'm only going to take in what's good for me, or in this case, what has positive, intellectual results. Otherwise, television is a waste of time.Art/Entertainment reflects a society, so why shouldn't a society care about its representation?I love movies, and television, and I do watch plenty of stuff outside my comfort zone.It's up to the writers, yes, and I basically am really happy with what they've created so far, but there is a tendency in today's culture to aim for the lowest common denominator, or the easiest answer (sexual subject matter) in entertainment, since afterall, it is a business. I'm simply hoping that the writers aim for something more meaningful, because, like I said, the show has great heart.Being picky isn't a bad thing; don't know where you got that idea. As with many things, it's only a negative when taken to an excessive point.

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gingin6 — GMT

since we've borrowed so many sitcom ideas from them over the years

I'm curious to know what shows we borrowed? Don't forget it goes both ways. Some oftheir shows are here with the same host. We didn't take over it with our own people. Ourshows are over there as well. So every country sees something interesting and want it airedover there as well as here. No different than trading goods and food.

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lovebigbang — GMT

Leslie is a strong, secure, smart confident woman. IF these comments came from a man they would be considered funny, even admirable.She is sure of herself and in our world when a woman is sure of herself and speaks her mind she is a B**ch or she's easy. But it's acceptable behavior for a man.I think she comlements Sheldon very well, she is the only character on the show that can put him in his place.

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gingin6 — GMT

I like that ideal to put him in his place. He needs that.

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monsmagic — GMT

I would like to see more of Sara Gilbert. She plays her character so well. It would be nice to see her tone down a little, but still keep her ability for a monotone. I agree, she is the perfect nemesis for Sheldon.

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TSL15 — GMT

the show wouldnt be the same without leslie...when i see her on the screen i know - SHELDON is getting his portion..lol

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remembercash — GMT

how do we know if anyone's opinion is their own and not what someone told them to think?

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of_the_shire — GMT

While I can see why many viewers see Leslie as Sheldon's nemesis perfected, I still say that Penny, who represents the more "normal" female in society ("normal" of course meant very much in a broad sense of the word), does hilariously well at standing up to Sheldon. I know there's a debate already going on this message board somewhere about the episode where she and Sheldon battle things out, but it is worth pointing out that Penny is a strong woman too. She's bringing the "guys" out of their comfortable world, into the larger one, and generally in a positive way.What's great too, is that while Penny is able to hold her own against them, and while helping them, the guys also expand her knowledge and experience too. Remember where she's explaining "Shrodinger's Cat" to that other guy? She couldn't have done that prior to Sheldon teaching it TO HER.Sorry, but Leslie just doesn't have my main vote. Sure, she's smart, but she probably creeps me out more than anything. When I see her come on the screen, I don't anticipate a cool put-down of Sheldon, I'm thinking, "Here we go again." I look forward instead to the verbal battles and punches Sheldon receives from Penny, in my opinion, a much more worthy opponent in a different way.Though romantically speaking, I still think Sheldon will encounter a girl too much for him to handle, who is going to HUMBLE him. NOT humiliate him, HUMBLE him. Leslie Winkle is just there to humiliate him, so I don't really see potentional for a "Sheldon-in-relationship-with- Leslie Winkle" scenario.

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of_the_shire — GMT

And another thing I've been meaining to ask: what's a "fundie?" (From the earlier posting "If the fundies are complaining...")Are we talking "fundementalists?" Because frankly, you don't need to be a fundementalist (religious fundementalist) to take issue with something morally. You just need to have a moral compass that tells you something doesn't feel right. Again, good job to whoever started this discussion posting for having the courage to say something about it. If something bugs you morally, and you feel moved to tell someone, then more power to you for voicing your feelings on the issue.

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TopChun — GMT

Nerdy chicks don't have the same appeal that dudes somehow manage to strangely create. I see the need for her role, but she's very hard to like. I think the second female role should be the not-as-hot as Penny, air-headed, geek-admiring, eventually shyly-lusting fan of Sheldon. Leslie's current relationship with Leonard is strange and awkward. Having a chick who mirrors the Leonard to Penny relationship would be funny because Sheldon will never see it. Sara Gilbert can do any role but that role has to roll. Ya know!

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gooldgrand — GMT

I agree with this post. Sara's character has alot of potential, but the foul language does not seem natural or necessary and is uncomfortable.

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Tortus7 — GMT

I like the Sara Gilbert character. She is a terrific actress who has raised annoying Sheldon to the level of an art form. Like so many villains/villainesses, I think she is doing a good job if you hate her. I'd love to see her meet Sheldon's mother see how those personalities would play off of each other. Maybe they could both vie for the affections of Dr. Gablehauser. Whatever choice Dr. G would make, it would definitely put "Sheldor the Conqueror" in a pickle.

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tv_girl — GMT

I absolutely LOVED Sara Gilbert as an actress, as well as her character, when she was in Roseanne, and I love her and Leslie Winkle just as much on TBBT. I actually wish she was on more often. She's the one person that can annoy Sheldon!!! And the show definately needs a character like that. I was a little surprised that some people thought her character was vulgar; it didn't occur to me at all. It just seems to fit. The character and the actress are prefect, don't change a thing.

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dsmi2726 — GMT

I love her , she does this role well I would not change anything. I love this show I LOL . Don't do that much over t.v. anymore. I hope it stays on. Love the one about the driving lessons. She is playing the role they gave her and very well.

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Linkerius — GMT

No any changes!!! All chapters are good as they are

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of_the_shire — GMT

I wonder why so many people put so much emphasis on the Leslie Winkle character. I don't find her that funny, and I think the show would've still been great without that character. In fact, you could say the attention/airtime given to Leslie Winkle detracts from time that could be given to characters like Raj, who sometimes seems like he's being treated as an afterthought. Sometimes I wonder if the writers are saying, "Whoops, got to put Raj in this scene or risk missing him from an episode or two." The character of Leslie Winkle is funny, but she doesn't seem essential, and probably some of my least favorite episodes involve that character. AND my favorite episodes don't have an appearance of that character. Instead my favorite episodes focus on the primary characters: Leonard, Sheldon, and Penny.My only complaint is about morality here. If her character is vulgar, which it is, then I wish the vulgarity could be decreased a bit. On a side note, as I have mentioned before, OTHER characters are a little too vulgar too, so I'm not just putting all this negative criticism on just the Leslie Winkle character. That character just has a tendency to be vulgar.It's a shame that she's the only representation the show has of a smart, nerdy girl (not really counting Stephanie, since she's new and the audience doesn't really know how integral she'll be to the plot in the long run), because frankly, I don't identify with her at all, and I doubt my friends would identify with her either.

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sararingham — GMT

I haven't had a chance to read through three pages of answers but I believe very much so that a child wouldn't understand this show (depending on how old of course) a lot of people don't understand some of the things that comes out of Sheldon's mouth and half the things he doesn't understand either - therefore having to research his lines before acting them out...But that's besides the point... I don't care for Leslie as much as the other main characters... I kind of cheer for Sheldon when he harps on her, and when she's mean to him it just makes me not like her character.. but I don't think anything should be changed.. it's just the way things are...I'm damn sick of hearing parents not parenting their children and asking people to edit the show - I and everyone seems to like it how it is... and people like you are the ones that make TV unwatchable because you don't want to just tell your kids not to watch that - it's not a children's TV show in the least bit... good god...

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of_the_shire — GMT

I don't have kids. I wouldn't let my kids watch this show if I had any. That's simple. In fact, in my original post, I said this show is geared for adults.When I'm talking about morality in regard to art...audience...writing...and so on, it's about the adults who are exposing themselves to this stuff. Why shouldn't an adult care about what is on TV, what they watch, or what his/her friends are watching, or family is watching? TV is something everyone in our society shares as a community experience, so caring about what's on it is worthwhile. There's a lot of junk on TV, and I think this show could rise above that. But if "everyone" just wants another sex-plot-driven sitcom, then that is sad. There is a general notion in our society right now that sex is what drives the world or something, which is an idiotic notion. I like this show, and I don't want to see it going down that path, so there's nothing wrong with me saying so, in a discussion community such as this; that's why discussion boards exist.I'm defending the original poster who started this discussion. That person took issue with some of the subject matter on this show, and I agree, basically, with what they said. I find NOTHING wrong with someone pointing out something that bothers them morally. People are so quick to defend immoral subject matter (because they like it), but less likely to stand up for the other guy."Everyone seems to like it how it is," is an invalid statement. Obviously some people DON'T like it how it is...That's the point. That's why there is a discussion, otherwise, it would just be one point of view with little-to-no variance. I guess you're trying to rule out some of us viewers, like we don't count or something, when clearly we DO count, since we've bothered to reply to these posts!

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zimra88 — GMT

As a huge fan of the Roseanne , I am absolutely thrilled to see Sara in another sitcom with Johnny! The way her character taunts Sheldon is absolutely hilarios (especially in Barbarian Sublimation). I would be hugely dissappointed if the writers changed her character to appease the nay-sayers who obvioulsy don't know that the world does not cater to their every whim, and aren't very competent if the solution to "This show isn't 'Kid Friendly'." is to change a part of the essence that makes it vibe. It's called censoship. If you think it's inappropriate for your kid, then don't let them watch it. End of story. Keep Leslie Winkle the same. btw: how bout those full length episodes??

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Ms_Starshine — GMT

I have found that everything always has room for improvement. However, I don't think that improvement lies with Leslie.She has only showed up in a couple of shows, and in my opinion, didn't subract any of the amazing essence which is big bang.

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madplanter — GMT

Leslie Winkle is the perfect nemesis for Sheldon. Raj & Wolowitz respect her as an equal & enjoy the repartee. She's great! Leslie Winkle is spice for the stew & she is on just enough to keep the pot churning. I don't know that I'd enjoy her as much if she had double the air time.Who ever got the idea that the shows from 8p-11p on Monday were meant to be directed at teens & under??Someone needs a clue. Except for Leonard, all the characters speak in a randy manner. That's why we like the show.Furthermore, leave Two & a Half Men alone as well -- it's great show as is. As Jake once said, they should put Charlie's picture on money!

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madplanter — GMT

madplanter wrote: Leslie Winkle is the perfect nemesis for Sheldon. Raj & Wolowitz respect her as an equal & enjoy the repartee. She's great! Leslie Winkle is spice for the stew & she is on just enough to keep the pot churning. I don't know that I'd enjoy her as much if she had double the air time.Who ever got the idea that the shows from 8p-11p on Monday were meant to be directed at teens & under??Someone needs a clue. Except for Leonard, all the characters speak in a randy manner. That's why we like the show.Furthermore, leave Two & a Half Men alone as well -- it's great show as is. As Jake once said, they should put Charlie's picture on money!

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shadrow1 — GMT

OK...that's enough! I am a 49 year old man, happily married with four wonderful children and five adorable grand kids. I have over the years found some things to be what "I" felt were inappropriate for my children to watch. However, I have not found anything on this show to be rude or distasteful. The sexual banter exchanged on the show was in context with the subject matter. Having known this perhaps those who would find this offensive should ( change the channel ). The big bang theory is a gem of a sitcom with a cast that blend like a warm southern whiskey over ice. Having said this may I just add that C.B.S. has a one , two , three, KO with Two and a half men , The Big Bang Theory , and Fringe. Hats off to the powers that be.

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monicapoland — GMT

I love sheldon!!! He is my favorite texan! I watch just to see him!

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shadrow1 — GMT

Please excuse my error posted earlier. In my haste to rebuke kmonishi's statement concerning the sexual undertones/innuendos of the show I seamed to have added the show Fringe as one of CBS's great shows. Ha...sorry. I should have included How I met your mother. Obviously, Fringe comes on another network. Although I must say that Fringe is a great show...there I feel better now.

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susejsusej — GMT

the character is fine, the actress is absolutely perfect in the role. so, sounds like the audience needs to go to bed, or to church, or wherever it is that prevents them from enjoying friggin' PG language. "sexual references" are everywhere these days. better to see some realistic ones portrayed on TV than simply allow your kids to absorb subliminal suggestions which are everywhere !!or just quit watching. you're obviously not going to prepare your kids for life...so you'd better find a remote cabin in Utah, one of those multi-wife enclaves in Texis, or maybe raise them Sarah Palin-style so they'll be pregnant in high school.

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Kazturkey — GMT

I think the writers have done a great job with the "Leslie" character. The sex references aren't in ANY way over-the-top, they're remarkably low for today's sitcoms. If you don't want your children watching this then the simple answer is Don't Let Them.

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Vincentia — GMT

susejsusej wrote: "sexual references" are everywhere these days. better to see some realistic ones portrayed on TV than simply allow your kids to absorb subliminal suggestions which are everywhere !!

...yes, you're right. And that does not make it right, or moral, or good. It does not make the world a better place. And it does not mean that we who don't care for garbage on TV must sit back and let those who do like it, or don't care one way or another, tell us we are wrong for pointing it out.Right now, TBBT is the only sitcom I am still watching because most everything on TV is trash. And if TBBT gets to the point that I am uncomfortable with it, I WILL quit watching it. And if enough people quit watching show that depend so much on sex and crude talk to be funny, perhaps it would make a difference.And if it doesn't, then it shows that society has lost its taste for good manners, good taste, and clean entertainment. That is NOT necessarily a good thing. There was a time that sitcoms could be funny AND clean. Many of these are still popular (like "I Love Lucy" and "The Honeymooners" and "The Dick Van Dyke Show.") But in the last generation or so, the media has desensitized us to the point that we can't be stimulated or entertained unless people swear or talk about who's sleeping with whom.And as for the remark about letting TV show my kids "realistic" sexual messages, firstly, it doesn't show the real sexual world for everyone, and secondly, I'd much prefer to teach them myself than let a TV show do it.Your right. Sexual references are everywhere. And it is a clear symptom of society's continual slide into immorality.

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Kazturkey — GMT

Immoral how exactly? How are sexual references immoral? This is what the people who scream about them always fail to mention. Why are these innuendos immoral? I don't think they break any kind of moral code that I'm aware of. It would be a different matter if they ran around naked screaming them out but on TBBT they are for the most part quite subtle. (With certain obvious exceptions)

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geoff1958 — GMT

FYI Sara's status has been changed from 'regular' to 'guest star'i guess the writers had trouble finding ways to get her into story lines.

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animacuriosa — GMT

Wow! Who knew Sara would be such a hot topic!I honestly don't notice her much when she's in the scenes.When I first saw she was on the show I thought "Ew... I don't think a Rosanne element is going to work in this show." But she grew on me a little, she's just "there". If she's in a scene, cool. If not, don't even notice.I agree with the one poster who said "...but it's so one-note. I mean, every time she's in a cafeteria scene with the guys, we know what's going to happen: insult Sheldon, a few lines with the guys, insult Sheldon again...."But she's not the only character that I think could use a tad bit more of depth to 'em. They've got great actors, (I saw Sara in a drama show last year somewhere and she surprised the heck out of me and was great!). They could utilize all this talent a little bit more.It would be nice to see a couple more surprises like "the hug" scene between Sheldon and Penny.I don't mean mushy, but that scene just showed, not sure how to describe it... more "omg" fun and character stretching moments.Anyway, back on topic, lol, I don't really even notice her, so I guess I vote is - leave as is.This show is mild compared to the ones I grew up on: Three's Company, etc.,

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kaleyiluvu — GMT

vincentiai do share your thought that its the parent's jobto teach the children, not television. and i also dont agree with susejsusej that if you dont like innuendo, you should remove yourself from society and isolate.but i will ask you this. it sounds like you dont like the references or innuendo on TBBT, which is obviously a bigpart of the show. if thats so, then why are you hereon a message board dedicated to that show only andspending time talking about something you dont particularly like, or want your kids to watch?thats my question

Re:WRITERS: Rewrite Sara Gilbert's Character

of_the_shire — GMT

For any of you who think our culture is not getting desensitized, is not in a downward decline, how's about this for an illustration:"That 70's Show," which has more sexual references, more obvious sexual content, and more explicit drug references than any sitcom I can think of, is now being shown regularly on the ABC FAMILY channel. PLEASE, PLEASE tell me you see what's wrong here!!For those of you unfamiliar with morality or why it's important:All cultures and societies have a system of morals and ethics, a method of judging actions as either good or bad, righteous or evil. From a practical, earthly, secular worldview, such moral codes serve to create order out of chaos, such as in the form of a government creating laws. However, morals may also take more ambigious forms, and may not be officially documented, and therefore exist in a community's united social consciousness (hence: good/bad manners).From a religious perspective, morals have greater import than simply keeping order. Most religions teach some system of knowing the difference between good and evil, as a means to avoid acts that will lead a person to hell, and to promote acts that lead to grace, enlightenment, or heaven.Morality fits into entertainment, and therefore any sitcom in many ways: philosophically, psychologically, artistically...My point is: if a culture's entertainment is immoral, the culture is immoral, and therefore the people are immoral.Whether you want to believe it or not, sex is an aspect of the human experience that can be both beautiful or corrupted. As one of the main driving forces for the species' survival, it has a huge effect on everyone, in one way or another. That's why political scandals are plastered all over the news and entertainment channels, and why they are so interesting to the public. It's human nature to be interested in seeing the powerful brought to their knees, or at least off their pedestals, by something so simple that most people experience.From a religious perspective, carelessness with the subject of sex leads to irresponsibility with its consequences, such as children or STDs. If people practiced more responsibilty with sex, there'd be less of many things that most people would agree are "bad," most obviously abortions and STDs.The subject of sex should be treated with more respect and responsibility than it usually is, especially in a form of communication that reaches out to EVERYONE, such as television.And once again: A PERSON CAN STILL LIKE A SHOW AND HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. If someone wants to watch this show, but is dissappointed with the morality within it, that's no different than all the posters who have complained about various characters all along the way.If this topic is too deep for you, then don't ask frivolous questions.And "Texas" is spelled with an "a" not an "i".A person can prepare his or her children for life without resorting to fanatical extremes. It's a classic case of just taking the time and effort, having good judgement, and not being careless or irresponsible.

Re:WRITERS: Rewrite Sara Gilbert's Character

kaleyiluvu — GMT

"A PERSON CAN STILL LIKE A SHOW AND HAVE COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT. If someone wants to watch this show, but is dissappointed with the morality within it"first of all, morality is a personal issue. so please dont wield it like you invented it and are the scribe to it on this site. its why people dont want to discuss religion or morality withthose of your ilk. there's not just one viewpoint. if you really have moral issues and objections about the show, you should be takinga stand and boycotting it, along with any websites dedicated to it. but no, you're here to show us all the error of our ways. bring down something we feel is wonderful because you have objections. you dont find it enjoyable so youwant the rest of us to dislike it too. sorry, but this flock does not need to be sheparded. they're happy in the field where they stand.the show is what it is, and would not be the same enjoyable 22 mins every monday at 8pmif the innuendo and sexual tension were omitted. and i'm not even going to broach the subject of the effect of sex in TV and movieson the morality of our youth. thats a complete novel and we totally disagree. its ok for you to find the show objectionable...or at least some parts. its your right. but please dont compare it to complaints about plots and characters. it is different. because when you tell me, ( and the others here )that the show promotes immorality, then those of us who find it enjoyable are being told thatour beliefs and character are immoral too. its guilt by association, and last i checkedjoseph mccarthy was still dead. and btw, to the rest of the message board viewers, this issue was dead over a month ago, butwas reincarnated by vincentia to whom i responded and then again by shire. i can let it die here if they do.

Re:WRITERS: Rewrite Sara Gilbert's Character

of_the_shire — GMT

Firstly, I'm only answering the issues that were already brought up by other posters. In case you didn't read the orignal poster's message, the issue WAS regarding morality, THAT'S why the poster wanted the Sara Gilbert character rewritten. I'm glad Vincentia spoke up, and I had left the forum for like a month, until I saw some of the negative feedback to her post.Secondly, I'm not trying to "shepherd" anyone. I'm trying to defend the views already expressed here, and in doing so, I choose to elaborate and explain my defense and support.You seem to think I am telling you what to do, or that I am criticizing you. I'm not. I'm criticizing the show, and what it could represent in art/society. If you make that connection through association, that's your doing not mine. Likewise, when you say that I shouldn't say my thoughts on the forum, you're bossing me around which isn't fair either. Actually, you've taken part in establishing your own ethics to this discussion. You think what I have posted is "wrong" according to what you believe is proper for this discussion, but in doing so, have fallen into the same position yourself, and begin to order what should or shouldn't be, what you believe is "right" or "wrong."You probably shouldn't use phrases like "those of your ilk" since you DO NOT KNOW ME. You have no right to judge me according to YOUR worldview. And you might be suprised that I'm a fair, open-minded person. You're wrong: the show WOULD be the same level of humor, but better, with less bad moral jokes in it. I've seen it myself. When you avoid the least quality, the basest of humor, the least-common-denominator stuff, you end up with more creative humor, which is more intellectual and more thought provoking.And another point we simply disgree on is the issue of comparing this type of criticism of the show to criticism of other elements in it. Sorry, but there is no difference. It follows the same exact formula: person in audience has complaint, gives reasons why, then gives a theoretical answer/conclusion. It's no different from people who don't like Sheldon because they find him annoying. (Personally, I think Sheldon, and Penny, and their interaction is the only thing the show really has that's unique.)