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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Who is the best villain on CSI: Miami thus far? </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>To me?Hm,Clavo Cruz!In 'no man's land'(I think it's eppy where Eric is shot)Horatio interrogats him.Clavo's answers were Lol.I was falling of bed. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Whoever killed tim (speedy)  don't know the title. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:03:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>or when wolfe almost lost his eye from a nail.  Whatever villian did that. season 4episode 408. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:07:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>actually it was like a hit and runthat lady thought that Wolfe was the contracter she was affraid of </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:52:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Who killed Tim?I can't remember name </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 05:15:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I do not think Tim's killer was named.  It was one of the robbers at the jewelry store that shot him while he was looking at his gun. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:18:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>it was a security officer </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:28:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>THANKS NINA </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:39:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>UR WELCOMEI MISS SPEEDLE <img src="/forum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:38:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>You think I don't? </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:43:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>OH I KNOW U DOI JUST MISS HIM RIGHT KNOWAND I MISS ALEXX </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:47:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Yea I still can't imagine CSI:Miami without her.I have 6 season at DVD,but I can't watch that episode. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:16:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>THE NEW ME SUCKS RICK STETLER'S BALLS!!!!!I WANT ALEXX BACK!!!!PUBERTY SUCKS!!! </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:36:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Nice comment. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:37:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:06:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Best Bad Guy? </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='darkblue'>There have been quite a few interesting bad guys over 6-plus seaons.  The Cruz brothers (Clavo was the more colorful of the two; Ramon got caught in international waters).Ron Saris (stubborn sort--but capable of all sorts of mischief.Gloria (Eric's crazy ex-girlfriend).That private investigator and his friend from "Down to the Wire" (I love how Horatio takes the investigator down at the end)."Zane" (from "To Kill a Predator")--seems like there were a few people who WANTED to stop the predators, but their methods (except for Kevin Weaver, perhaps) were anything but legal.Dan Cooper (who was fired from the lab for identity theft in season 6)--why he wasn't arrested for identity theft eludes me, but he <i>should </i> have been arrested after Calleigh was rescued in "Ambush/All In" (he was the one who set up the website that led to her abduction). </font></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Nov 2008 02:19:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>U,I must watch those episodes today.I just can't find time. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 9 Nov 2008 05:12:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>delkobaby978, can we try to refrain from such vulgar comments please? I miss Tim Speedle and Alex Woods too. They both were unique dynamics to the show. It feels like there is something missing in the new episodes now. My favorite bad guy was absolutely hands down Clavo Cruz.  My favorite man to hate is Rick Stetler.  My favorite current bad guy is Ron Sirus because it is completely personal now with H.  Ron messed with the one thing you never mess with when it comes to H, and that is his family.  The showdown between them is going to be an unforgettable one.  I predict H will bring a wrath of fury like we have never seen before.  God I can't wait!!! </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:54:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='red'></font> hi guys..I am also going to go with Clavo Cruz..I don't know, there's was somethin in that actor"s performance!!! He had such attidtude ! heheh </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 06:59:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Cruz was IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!I loved his charachter so I think he's BEST BAD GUY.There aws something IDIOITC in him what made him interesting. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:54:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:34:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>HA I ve even forget how tht goes </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Clavo cruz wins the "Best Villian Award" in my opinion.  Not only did his  "bad boy" nature portray him as evil but it also portrayed him as a 'turn-on' for some. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>VRSOBE1969 WELCOME TO BOARD!!!!IT LOOKS LIKE CLAVO WINS!! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>i loved Clavo too i hoped they would have left his character in it for longer, i dont know if i was impressed by the way H got him in the end or if it was just stone cold nasty!? either way he was a great baddie whats even more odd was that he turned up in csi:ny as a baddie too! oh and that judge who killed that hooker and ended up having a kid he had killed too was in Vegas as a lawyer!! ah the wonder that is CSI. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>CLAVO WINS ALOT </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><b>     The best bad guy I belive i forget his name, but he was in jail with H's son. He had his son hidden in a suer drain. I think they will butt heads again. As for Cruz He was a dirt ball with no real balls. Thats why H killed him cuz he was a lil pussy. Oh and that guy that married H's ex wife that got a way m sure we will see him again. if H dose not arrest him he will for sure kill him. I do agree though Alex needs to come back. <font color='darkred'></font></b></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I think Clavo cruz is the best bad guy and then Ron Saris. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Clavo Cruz, hands down. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='green'></font><span style="font-size: 18px; line-height: normal;"></span>i like as the best bad guy the one that kidnapped alex. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I am going to have to say <img src="/forum/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" />ast: Clavo Cruz, he brought a lot out of HoratioPresent: Ron Saris, he's gotten personal and messed with Horatio and the one thing you don't mess with: H's family, namely his Kid </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>While Clavo Cruz was creepy, Mala Noche Antonio Riaz was the most dangerous.  After all, he did have Marisol killed and Eric shot--not to mention the airliner he almost blew up. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>For me without a doubt Clavo Cruz best villian.......kinda cute villian too(hehehe) </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>He's not cute. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>is there any way to bring back Clavo without an i see dead people post traumatic stress story line?no offence Delko lovers! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>No doubt about it.  It has to be Antonio Riaz.  Watching Horatio stab him actually made me feel good.  Clavo was a close second. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I loved how Horatio was a bad ass dark knight going after Riaz.  He was in his dark place and I loved every minute of it! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Yeah I really miss Tim Speedle too. The show really isn't the same with Ryan Wolfe in it. Because you can see the tension between Eric and Ryan really bad. The guy that shot him is the worst bad guy because he was the one of the characters besides Horatio Caine. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>by far best bad guy is Ron Saris played by Kim Coates </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I also have to say Judge Ratner gave H a run for his money.  This corrupt judge just oozed of evil.  It was coming out of every pore.  I was surprised H didn't tap into his dark place when the Judge denied justice being served in the name of one of the innocent people H was trying to help.  Very bad man. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Cruz is a very good choice, I like that one.  Then, when I saw the Judge Ratner comment, I thought, yes-less subtle but just as evil because he's not only bad, but in a position to hurt others and other cases.  That's a bad combo.  I have to say though, the one that has disturbed me the most was the guy in the kid's arcade place who kidnapped and killed the girl.  He cut his finger prints off to be able to get away.  Maybe because it had children, but that episode really bothered me.  The episode was very precise too.  Well written.  Scary. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>JustHappyMe wrote: </cite>Cruz is a very good choice, I like that one.  Then, when I saw the Judge Ratner comment, I thought, yes-less subtle but just as evil because he's not only bad, but in a position to hurt others and other cases.  That's a bad combo.  I have to say though, the one that has disturbed me the most was the guy in the kid's arcade place who kidnapped and killed the girl.  He cut his finger prints off to be able to get away.  Maybe because it had children, but that episode really bothered me.  The episode was very precise too.  Well written.  Scary. </div>		</blockquote>I agree with this too.  This was the episode called Broken.  Stewart Otis was a pedophile who was always under the radar.  He had costumes to a lot of children's hangouts.  He "Frankensteined" his finger prints and sewed them back on to his finger tips.  He wore shoes that were too big.  He had milk cartons with missing children's faces on them, which were a representation of headstones.  I won't even mention the disturbing things found back at his home where he "played".Stewart comes back in a later episode and he tries to kidnap a girl on a field trip to the aquarium.  H, Yelina and the rest were waiting for him.  H chases him up to the top of a building with the frightened little girl in his arms.  H was able to get her and told her to run as fast as you can back that way.  At the very end, Stewart ends up dangling from over the edge of the building with H holding on to him.  Stewart pleads with H to let him die.  If he doesn't he will just keep coming back for them, he needs them.  This was a very intense and powerful scene.  It also made me sick to my stomach because of the disturbing admission from Stewart that he will never stop and he needs them.  This really got to me.  It was a very emotionally, psychologically disturbing episode.  He was a very sick bad man, different than the other villains of this show. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>That episode bothered me so much!  I wouldn't go to one of those places with my son for the longest time.  It stuck in my head for forever.  Very detailed recap (thanx!) <img src="/forum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" />  I can still picture his face and how I just wanted torture him.  Like death was too easy.  This was a good choice.  And when the judge let the serial killer go to get even with H, that just made me so mad.  Abusing his power and endangering more people.  I was gonna call him something, but can't think of a bad one that I could write.  How about A$$HOLE </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>Pickle8182 wrote: </cite>That episode bothered me so much!  I wouldn't go to one of those places with my son for the longest time.  It stuck in my head for forever.  Very detailed recap (thanx!) <img src="/forum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" />  I can still picture his face and how I just wanted torture him.  Like death was too easy.  This was a good choice.  And when the judge let the serial killer go to get even with H, that just made me so mad.  Abusing his power and endangering more people.  I was gonna call him something, but can't think of a bad one that I could write.  How about A$$HOLE </div>		</blockquote>I couldn't agree more with you.  There is no word bad enough to describe him, but that word seems to work <img src="/forum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I like you! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Thank you I appreciate that.  I like you too <img src="/forum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>i think  they should have a show where Tim's killer is shown so that Tim is not forgotton but put the killer to be someone we all have seen before...i miss Tim's dark humor. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I really miss Tim too.  I loved his sarcastic sense of humor.  It was great.  I wish every season they would honor his memory somehow to remind us how much we love and miss him. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>It has to be Clavo Cruz.....Glad H killed him...But still wish he could come back some way...He was good.... <img src="/forum/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Tim's dry humor was funny in the show.  The best part of the whole Cruz thing was when H told his father he wasn't really his son.  Both their faces.  And then when the father turned his back on him...golden. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>H destroyed one family than.He wasn't happy,but stil;he put Clavo in prison </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I like it when Horatio gets to be a bit of a bad guy, but as baddies go Cruz was a psycho! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I loved Cruz as a bad boy because his world crumbles and falls apart when he finds out the Colonel is not his father.  Then when he joins forces with his biological father, his dad leaves him high and dry too.  This man was constantly rejected by the most important people in the world to him.  He was sad and angry.  Cruz went to H because he wanted H to kill him.  H knew that and understood, sympathizing with him.  He knew that and it still makes me said when Cruz tells H to take care.  There was so much pain and sadness from that one little line.  It was really sad. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>hullo! ^_^ newbie here, and my first post. nice to meet you allhm... best bad guy? talk about choicesSaris- currently heading the list for a number of reasons. those freaky bullets, endangering H's son, etc...Riaz- he had dear Mari killed and Eric shot. nuff said *happy dance that H and Eric brought him down* sometimes ya just gotta do things yourself, particularly when the slime in question trots off happily to another country &gt;_&gt;Ratner- thoroughly evil, this one... and (formerly) in a position of power too. yikesResden- im with Horatio here. even tho Resden's childhood sucked, he didnt deserve compassionCruz- both for their exploitation of diplomatic immunity, but especially Clavo. found his &quot;suicide by cop&quot; stunt kinda interestingTownsend- Natalia's ex, and all-around skeezoid. glad he bit the dust tooprivate investigator twerp from &quot;Down to the Wire&quot;- i cheered so much when Horatio nailed him at the end. but all that info they found... i definitely sense that coming back to haunt our team :/Julia- my dislike for her has mellowed a little since its come to light that shes severely unhinged, but shes still friggin dangerous. how many has she had killed now? and how in the heck did H fall for her in the first place?!?! o_O() he has more sense than that!dude who killed Speed- they did get that guy, yeah? *misses Speed*dude who shot Eric- yay for Eric clinging to life like that, but geez... nearly gave me a coronary!Cooper- he was cool at first but after swiping Speed's card and posting stuff about Calleigh online as revenge... no bloody way. loved Eric's threat to him tho! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" />Stetler- not technically a villain, but gets a dishonorable mention from me since he was (allegedly) abusive to Yelina and such a royal jerk most of the time he's on-screen, especially to Horatio. so you were passed over for a promotion, boo-freakin-hoo </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>OMG wow HoratioSoul!!  Well done!  Very astute with all the villains.  Great first post! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>hee! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" /> many thanks cle0. betcha can tell where my "fave character" preferences lie too hehe </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>HoratioSoul wrote: </cite>hee! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" /> many thanks cle0. betcha can tell where my "fave character" preferences lie too hehe </div>		</blockquote>I think I have an inkling towards your favorite <img src="/forum/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Hell H-soul!Hm about Residen...I agree.H had a horrible childhood but he's still 'good guy'. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Hi everyone! I always loved Clavo but I think that Ron has made a good show of himself. I hope he's in a few more episodes and Eric gets to shoot him. That would be great! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>enhinti:Calvo is dead. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I know. That doesn't mean he was less of a great bad guy. The best part was when H called him of his bio dad's phone and told him that the bio dad was abandoning him. It didn't matter because Clavo had H who he could always rely on to chase him. Isn't that what Clavo said to the General just before he shot him? "You should learn a think or two from this guy, pops. He never gives up!" Something like that! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>When I said I wanted him in a few more episodes I was talking about Ron, not Clavo. Even though Clavo is still my favorite, I thought Ron was great. Ron made a pretty good show for himself as a fitting and believable arch enemy for Horatio. I hope that Ron is in a few more episodes (not just one) and that Eric gets to shoot him (as apposed H). I think it should be Eric because H got to knife Riaz. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='darkred'>Hi all and Welcome "newbies":By far, to me... Clavo Cruz was the "best" H nemesis.  There was just this great tension and screen chemistry between David Caruso/H and Gonzalo Menendez/Clavo Cruz.   Ron Saris is sort of a wacky, psychotic type that initially just saw H as a barrier to his goals of having Julia and her money.  When Ron returns (and he will) later in Season 7, it will probably be a revenge thing.  But, Clavo was this very cleaver and cocky evil type who I think admired H as his opposite and H vice versa.  The H and Clavo relationship was like the classic good and evil struggle and I love watching these two play-off each other in old episodes.Do you remember this moment in "No Man's Land" #5.14?(Prison interrogation room.  Clavo sitting down in chair and H standing in front of him)Clavo: You know, you got some nerve, dog.  CO pulled me out of my yard time for this little visit with you?H: Turns out, Clavo... that your cousin, Pedro, killed a police officer.(Clavo claps lightly)Clavo: What does my sorry... incarcerated ass... have to do with that?H: Why don't you tell me?Clavo: Oooh. Oh, you just got me shaking in my jumps now, H.H: What are you two up to?Clavo: Blah...blah, blah.  Blah, blah.   'Cause of you... I got nothing, Caine.  I got no father... no home. I got no country.  I don't owe you a damn thing.(H doing his typical standing and rocking back and forth from side to side)H: Clavo... if you are after my attention, you have it.  So, why don't you be a man... and tell me what you are up to?(Clavo shakes head)Clavo: Hey, guard.  You the one that set me up on this blind date with this hater?  Bounce me up out of here, won't you please?(Clavo stands up)H: Clavo.  This isn't over.Clavo: Lieutenant Caine. The master of the obvious.(Clavo stabs guard.  Other guards get a hold of Clavo and pin him against wall) (H comes towards him and kicks chair across room and stares at Clavo.  Ooohhh.. that H stare)Clavo: I'm entitled to a fair trial... right, Caine?  (laughs)H: Take Him.  (Clavo is escorted out the room, laughing with a evil tone)I just love it!  Although, this scene, the characters and the acting is very different... if you’re a DC fan and familiar with NYPD Blue, you have to notice the DC/H similarity of him kicking the chair across the prison room and DC/Detective John Kelly doing the same action in NYPD Blue episode "Zeppo Marks Brothers" #18.H-COOL <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /></font></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Clavo was the best bad guy and I sometimes wish he didn't die just so H and Clavo could meet up again...they perform together very well. And I agree, my favorite line of all time is, "...We never close." My favorite episode of all time. H means business and he doesn't play!!!!!! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>h-cool wrote: </cite><font color='darkred'>Hi all and Welcome "newbies":By far, to me... Clavo Cruz was the "best" H nemesis.  There was just this great tension and screen chemistry between David Caruso/H and Gonzalo Menendez/Clavo Cruz.   Ron Saris is sort of a wacky, psychotic type that initially just saw H as a barrier to his goals of having Julia and her money.  When Ron returns (and he will) later in Season 7, it will probably be a revenge thing.  But, Clavo was this very cleaver and cocky evil type who I think admired H as his opposite and H vice versa.  The H and Clavo relationship was like the classic good and evil struggle and I love watching these two play-off each other in old episodes.Do you remember this moment in "No Man's Land" #5.14?(Prison interrogation room.  Clavo sitting down in chair and H standing in front of him)Clavo: You know, you got some nerve, dog.  CO pulled me out of my yard time for this little visit with you?H: Turns out, Clavo... that your cousin, Pedro, killed a police officer.(Clavo claps lightly)Clavo: What does my sorry... incarcerated ass... have to do with that?H: Why don't you tell me?Clavo: Oooh. Oh, you just got me shaking in my jumps now, H.H: What are you two up to?Clavo: Blah...blah, blah.  Blah, blah.   'Cause of you... I got nothing, Caine.  I got no father... no home. I got no country.  I don't owe you a damn thing.(H doing his typical standing and rocking back and forth from side to side)H: Clavo... if you are after my attention, you have it.  So, why don't you be a man... and tell me what you are up to?(Clavo shakes head)Clavo: Hey, guard.  You the one that set me up on this blind date with this hater?  Bounce me up out of here, won't you please?(Clavo stands up)H: Clavo.  This isn't over.Clavo: Lieutenant Caine. The master of the obvious.(Clavo stabs guard.  Other guards get a hold of Clavo and pin him against wall) (H comes towards him and kicks chair across room and stares at Clavo.  Ooohhh.. that H stare)Clavo: I'm entitled to a fair trial... right, Caine?  (laughs)H: Take Him.  (Clavo is escorted out the room, laughing with a evil tone)I just love it!  Although, this scene, the characters and the acting is very different... if you’re a DC fan and familiar with NYPD Blue, you have to notice the DC/H similarity of him kicking the chair across the prison room and DC/Detective John Kelly doing the same action in NYPD Blue episode "Zeppo Marks Brothers" #18.H-COOL <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /></font></div>		</blockquote>I loved this scene between the two of them.  The characters were in their element, at their best here.  The second best scene between the two of them is when Clavo comes to meet H outside the lab building.  Clavo shows his gun.  H reveals his gun from behind him.  They both kind of nod to each other.  At the very end Clavo tells H to take care, raises his weapon, but H draws quicker shooting him first.  This scene spoke so much in under two minutes.  Clavo has an admirable respect for H.  I think he wanted H to shoot him because H is the only one who understood, he respected him.  Clavo saw him as a formidable adversary and therefore thought, him dying any other way than at the hands of H would be unacceptable to Clavo.The ultimate scene between them is when Clavo goes and holds the Colonel hostage at gunpoint.  I believe this was mentioned in earlier posts on this thread.  Clavo tell Pops he could take a few lessons from H.  This also had a lot of underlying emotion in it, sharing empathy, pain and vulnerability.  I believe ultimately, Clavo was a lost soul, and was a product of constant disappointment and rejection his entire life.  This is why he was THE end all be all best bad guy in my eyes.  He wanted to end the pain and he sought out H to end that pain for him. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Yes. Clavo was a lost soul, but he was also a product of his own greed and villainy. As H said "Clavo's a big boy, who did this to himself!" </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Hmmm. This thread is sitting in one place. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" /> If its alright with everyone...Since everyone seems to agree that Clavo was the best villain, I was wondering what everyone thought about the villains from just last season? The villains were Rick Bates Miranda Harton Julio Rentoria Joe LeBrock Nicolas Pike (?) Mike Faralon Mitch Pena Julia Winston (you can add her if you want. I don't consider her a villain) Ron Saris Chief Braga (in Brazil) Lou Darning Agent Sylvestri Kurk Rossi Juan Ortega Who was the most evil villain last season? (This list is of course incomplete, so feel free to name others.) My favorite was Ron (can you guess?) and my second was Joe LeBrock! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Joe LaBrock was unforgettable and Ron Saris is evil on a different level. Now I do kind of consider Julia a villian, something about her I just don't trust. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" /> Oh and Ortega, I remember him...not a nice guy either. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>[b]hi guys, i haven't been around much since they killed the old site. actually it was too boring and now i don't know anyone anymore.. oh well H still rocks and now that he's dead i sorta like clavo cruz. he was the most interesting bad guy. also the actor seems like a real nice guy. i forgot his name. if you know me from the old board i can't remember alot of names. especially when i'm on meds.  LOL.. H rules jeanne </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>In all honesty, the character that Lucy Lawless played, I wish would have been more developed.  She could have been a really good bad guy.  They need to bring her back in another eppy maybe even involving her knowing Julia.  Now that would be great! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>furrymom1 wrote: </cite>[b]hi guys, i haven't been around much since they killed the old site. actually it was too boring and now i don't know anyone anymore.. oh well H still rocks and now that he's dead i sorta like clavo cruz. he was the most interesting bad guy. also the actor seems like a real nice guy. i forgot his name. if you know me from the old board i can't remember alot of names. especially when i'm on meds.  LOL.. H rules jeanne </div>		</blockquote>Hi, furrymom1! I'm actually kinda new here, but welcome back! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>HmLeBrock was idiot </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Last season's best villain has to be by far Ron Sirus.  I can't wait to see how scorned H is when he wipes the floor with him!!  This is all completely personal which makes him a very wicked villain for Horatio.  I predict H focuses all of his emotional fury onto Ron obliterating him.  Ron is either going to go after Julia, Kyle or both; and that will be the final straw that snaps Horatio to his core. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Ron Saris is a simply tell moron </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Last season:Joe Lebrock- He kinda got to Horatio when he tried to frame Kyle for murder and kidnapped Kyle. Making everything between the two personal. Horatio blackmailed Joe, the first sign of things to come for the season.Ron Saris- Now I cannot wait for the final showdown between these two. Every time they talked you could sense that Horatio just wanted to hit Ron. Ron manged to get under Horatio's skin, by calling Kyle and Julia his family. Horatio knew what Ron wanted from Julia and that his son would have to pay the price for Julia and Ron's relationship. Ron played on Horatio's detachment from his son, with comments like: I'll say Hi to your son for ya or it would be a lot easier on Kyle come fathers day. And oh man oh man when the time comes for them to go at it, Horatio is going to show this clown no mercy. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Those two episodes with Stewart Otis still make my stomach turn to this day.  He was a psychologically disturbed villain. Stewart: I'll get out, it's my nature.Horatio: I'll be waiting that's my nature. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"></span>IAB Rick Stetler.   In the episode when he smacked Yolina around,    H should have taken off his gun and badge, dragged Stetler behind the woodshed and did a little whoop ass! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>debisoup wrote: </cite><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"></span>IAB Rick Stetler.   In the episode when he smacked Yolina around,    H should have taken off his gun and badge, dragged Stetler behind the woodshed and did a little whoop ass! </div>		</blockquote>OMG LFMAO!!  I love it!  I couldn't agree with you more. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Wasn't the one where Yelia had a black eye in season 3? I don't think that Stetler did anything like that in season 6, although he was mean to Calleigh and bugged Eric. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"></span>OH wait!   The eppy with Erik Roberts. 3/23 "Whacked"  That would be a mild discription of his character.  Haven't been able to eat PB&J since. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I just finished watching season 4.  I really liked Walter Resden.  He hit all of H's buttons and he twisted the knife in H's already tortured heart.  He too was psychologically provoking.  It was also extremely personal between H and Resden.  That is what I think makes a truly good nemesis. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Resden is good villian too </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"></span>Chief Justice Ratner </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"></span>And there was Natalia's ex. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Cruise, by far him and Horatio have history and i love when H pulls him down </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>the best bad guy has been the person who held up the bank during the tsunami with the P90's </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>gil_mcgruff wrote: </cite>Who is the best villain on CSI: Miami thus far? </div>		</blockquote>Clavo Cruz. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Clavo Cruz! Hands down! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>gingin6 wrote: </cite>Whoever killed tim (speedy)  don't know the title. </div>		</blockquote>Pete Keller was the guy who got speedle killed... him maybe </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>debisoup wrote: </cite><span style="font-size: 24px; line-height: normal;"></span>IAB Rick Stetler.   In the episode when he smacked Yolina around,    H should have taken off his gun and badge, dragged Stetler behind the woodshed and did a little whoop ass! </div>		</blockquote>LMAO! Ur right... H should kicked his butt </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='darkred'> my H-man could of beaten Stetler easily, without a gun.H-SHADES <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /></font></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I think Stewart Otis was a really evil bad guy.  While Clavo made a good arch rival that Horatio had to take down, Stewart Otis was completely sick and evil. He preyed on innocent little children, something that I think pierced Horatio to his core, because he cares about children so much.Also, I thought the judge, Joseph Ratner, was also pure evil, because he was a corrupt politician who was suppose to be seeking justice, and yet because of his power and position he thought he could get away with murder.    In season 6, I see Ron and Julia as being together as villains.  I think they're in cahoots.  Ron was introduced as an associate of Julia's, that's why he even became a villain in the first place, and I can't separate them in my mind.  From the very beginning their exact relationship with each other has been extremely vague.  I just don't think Julia is as naive and innocent as she claims, or at all for that matter, I think she and Ron are totally in this together (or were at first anyway.).  It just seems to me that Ron was introduced to draw our attention off Julia and confuse us.  I didn't buy it.  It just seemed too coincidental that this really evil guy from Julia's past would randomly show up right at the time Julia needed someone killed, and that she didn't have a hand in it.As for Joe Lebrock, I don't think we've heard the last of him either. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Kate Hawkes from the "DeLuca Motel" episode. She was really wild. Not a Sonya, but awesome! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Clavo Cruz of course and Ron Sirus. but H takes it personally with every villain <img src="/forum/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" /> hes a total legend! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>another good bad guy was that child predator that rearranged his fingerprints or the shotgun massacre where the toddler was hid in the doghouse </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>The best bad Guy / girl has to be felt for a number of episodes , not even noticed by the CSI's until the big reveal, e.g Wow we never saw that coming.Someone so close and trusted, but all along there was a hidden whatever...... </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>the best bad guy is that internal affairs guy. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I want ALEX and ELENA & RAY  JR back I'd like to see Horatio and Elema to have a fling </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Tough pick.  I'd have to say that Antonio Riaz is the worst because he specifically targeted innocents close to H, "I'm going to take away everything you love!"  A close second is Clavo Cruz.  Thanks to Clavo, I sincerely believe that there shouldn't be such a thing as diplomatic immunity.  Also, I think Joe LeBrock deserves a mention because of his plots against Kyle, as well as the show's first recurring criminal, the serial pedophile, Stewart Otis.But, my favorite is Clavo because of his twisted father-son relationship with Horatio.   "You know what my friend, you are a serious player!  You can learn something from this man, Pop!  He never gives up, and I love that about you, Caine!" Ep 515 "Man Down" </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Stewart otisis </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='darkred'>Hey ALL:If you want to see the final showdown between H and Clavo again... both "No Man's Land" and "Man Down" is on tonight, FRIDAY, 2/6/09 on the A&E Network!Although there have been some bad human beings that H has dealt with, I think H and Clavo had the best Good Guy and Bad Guy Chemistry!By the way, Welcome to the Board all new posters!  Glad to have you here!H-COOL <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /> Gig'em H! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" /></font></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>It definately has to be Ron Saris. He really got under H's skin and made him mad. It really doesn't matter though because Horatio will dominate all!! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='darkred'><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>dbradshaw407 wrote: </cite>I want ALEX and ELENA & RAY  JR back I'd like to see Horatio and Elema to have a fling </div>		</blockquote>Hi "dbradshaw407" and Welcome to the Board.  I'm with you.  I would love Alexx back on the show and for there to be a big "Caine Family Reunion" including Suzie and Madison.Although, the writers surprised us by deciding to make Suzie's husband, Bob Keaton, an undercover Narc Officer.   I always did not like that guy.  He admitted to really shooting Ray Sr. to help fake his death, and he apparently abused Suzie to keep up his undercover status.  I loved it when H took him down in "Big Brother" and was not all that disappointed when he bit the dust later in "Vengeance".H-COOL <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /> Gig'em H! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /></font></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><font color='darkred'><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>hcaine33 wrote: </cite>It definately has to be Ron Saris. He really got under H's skin and made him mad. It really doesn't matter though because Horatio will dominate all!! </div>		</blockquote>Hi "hcaine33" and Welcome to the Board!  Glad to have another H-fan here.  Love your Pic! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" />   Ron Saris definitely is a true nemesis for H.  He is threatening to H's family and you just don't do that with a H-ERO who is the best shot wth a hand gun that I know of!  Maybe, even with a rifle (Ref: "GOING, GOING, GONE" #5.09 ) <img src="/forum/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" />H: "What are you planning to do with the rest of the ammunition you purchased, Ron?"Ron: "Well, hypothetically, if I were buying up all the bullets, I’d be using it for only one thing, and one thing only."H: "Is that a threat?"Ron: "Don’t flatter yourself. Although it would be a lot easier on Kyle come Father’s Day."H: "Ron, you’re gonna be dead by Father’s Day.""GOING BALLISTIC"  #6.21Can't wait for Ron to come face to face with H's SIG-Sauer P229! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" /><img src="/forum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /><img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  />H-COOL <img src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif"  /> Gig'em H! <img src="/forum/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" /><i><b>"KEEP ME POSTED." - Horatio Caine </b></i>4y-1=3b [Nh] is a great actor and my H-ERO! </font></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I would have  to say Walter Resden. He killed alot of people and locked kids in closets and still hasn't been arrested for anything. What really bugged me was when he started e-dating the woman who's parents he killed. <img src="/forum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /><img src="/forum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /><img src="/forum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>My top three are Clavo Cruz, Stewart Otis and Walter Resden.They just go beyond the normal sick criminal.  They were driven and emotionally battered.  The only one I ever felt bad for was Clavo Cruz, especially at the end scene between H and himself where he tells H to take care. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Does anyone else think Hagen was a bad guy?  I just really didn't like that man.  He was creepy and always got under my skin.  I can't believe Calleigh dated that man!!  It was so wrong on so many different levels, ick! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>cle0919 wrote: </cite>Does anyone else think Hagen was a bad guy?  I just really didn't like that man.  He was creepy and always got under my skin.  I can't believe Calleigh dated that man!!  It was so wrong on so many different levels, ick! </div>		</blockquote>I agree with you. I never did like Hagen. I think he had good intentions for the  most part...but anyone who holds a gun up to Calleigh's head is DEFINATELY a bad guy in my book!!! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Hagen had emotional and psychological problems after Ray's "death" that he never addressed. Perhaps this is another reason that Calleigh is so careful with Eric. Hagen really needed to see a doctor, but he didn't and then he insisted on staying in Miami where every remembered Ray and wondered if Ray was dirty and if Hagen was to blame. He was then forced to take time off to see a doctor, but then he still didn't transfer. He thought he could just pick up where he left off. He let his insecurities get in the way of his job and his relationship. He then based all his worth and "heroness" on whether Calleigh would be his girlfriend again. Hagen emotionally imbalanced but he wasn't a bad guy. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><blockquote>			<div>				<cite>cle0919 wrote: </cite>Does anyone else think Hagen was a bad guy?  I just really didn't like that man.  He was creepy and always got under my skin.  I can't believe Calleigh dated that man!!  It was so wrong on so many different levels, ick! </div>		</blockquote><font color='violet'><b>I totally agree with you ..he was so weird... i can't believe she dated him too!!! </b></font></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><h3 style="color: red">i think ron saris </h3></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Clavo Cruz was a formidable foe. Even prison couldn't hold him. Judge Ratner was like a Goliath to Horatio's David but Horatio found his weak spot. Walter Resden may have been a psycho but he deserved a little compassion; what can you expect from a person who went through what he did. Horatio may have experienced the same thing but I have a feeling that someone was there for him and I don't think Walter had noone. And in the case of what happened to Speedle and Ryan both were victims of panic only. Speedle because the security man was afraid they would be arrested and Ryan because the girlfriend of the man whose son committed the crime was trying to protect him. Eric and Marisol were victims. But if you ask me, the Best Bad Guy had to be Kurt Rossi, he took down Eric and Calleigh before Horatio got him. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-size: larger"><span style="color: #339966">Well, Ican't believe I'm saying this because Ihate him so much, but Ithink Antonio Riaz should rank up there. He ordered the hit on Marisol and broke Horatio and Delko's hearts. He almost shot down a plane, and it was so personal for Delko that he kicked him in the face as if saying, &quot;This is for Mari.&quot; He even instigated Horatio to go and kill him personally. <span style="color: #ff0000">I hate Antonio Riaz. <img alt="" src="/forum/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" /></span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span class="postbody" id="previewMessage"><blockquote><div><cit><b>ronyco wrote: </b><p>Clavo Cruz was a formidable foe. Even prison couldn't hold him. Judge Ratner was like a Goliath to Horatio's David but Horatio found his weak spot. Walter Resden may have been a psycho but he deserved a little compassion; what can you expect from a person who went through what he did. Horatio may have experienced the same thing but I have a feeling that someone was there for him and I don't think Walter had noone. And in the case of what happened to Speedle and Ryan both were victims of panic only. Speedle because the security man was afraid they would be arrested and Ryan because the girlfriend of the man whose son committed the crime was trying to protect him. Eric and Marisol were victims. But if you ask me, the Best Bad Guy had to be Kurt Rossi, he took down Eric and Calleigh before Horatio got him. </p></cit></div></blockquote><br /></span>I agree with you. Kurt Rossi gave the whole team a run for their money. The Mala Noches couldn't even do that. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>It looks to me like the Russian mob is going to be up there with Clavo Cruz and Kurt Rossi. The Russian mob is going to keep doing its thing until the team puts a stop to them. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Ron Saris, Senator O'Shea, and Rick Stetler are my favorites!! I mean they bring out the badass side of H and I would personally love to see H kick each one of their **** and then some!! LOL Clavo got what he deserved and the mala Noche omg one shot one kill..that was classic! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><div><span style="font-size: medium"><span style=""><span style=""><small><span style="font-family: Tahoma">Lt. H. Caine hasn't met his match! The day he does <i>someone </i> is gonna get sick! <img alt="" src="/forum/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" /></span></small></span></span></span></div><div></div><div></div></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Ron Saris! It make me angry knowing that he was Kyle's stepfather... however short it may have been. <img alt="" src="/forum/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #3366ff">I would have to say the PI Rossi; followed by Riaz and Saris. Rossi was too smarmy; Riaz was just evil and Saris is smarmy and evil.All three had long story arcs; and gave the team fits. </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Okay since I fairly new to the whole CSI:Miami scene (I only started watching it after Kyle came on... I mean I saw enough before than to know that the Mala Noche and Clavo Cruz were bad people). But in my view I am going to have to say Ron Saris. Only because Ron managed to work his way into Horatio's family and that made Horatio nervous. Imagine having someone like that living with your kid? Ron is creepy and I cannot wait for him to go down in flames like all the other ones that dare oppose Horatio. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Anyone voting for the Russian yet? </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I say Ron Saris. His and Horatio's dialogues are just nerve breaking. Especially the last time they met. Oh I loved it! </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Except Ron, who was there this season? The Russian mob? I found it hard to hate them because they were more of an entity than a person I could not like. I am sorry, but no one stood out to me this season-yet. They have one more shot. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><h3 style="color: red">I thinkstewert was the worst b/c...... 1. he stole a child, mellestered her, then killed her. 2. b/c he broke out of jail,in his&quot; uniform&quot;he stole his jail mates daughter, sold a dudechild pornography and dressed her up as a boy.then he tried kidnap thegirls cousin. <span style="color: #cc3300"><span style="font-size: large"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"></span></span></span></h3></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 25 May 2009 14:51:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><b>Tough Choice I Have More Than One Person The Best One Would Have To Be Ron Or Antonio Riaz </b></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><b><br /></b></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><b>I Loved Clavo Also He Was Funny I Miss Seeing Clavo Sometimes It Sounds Weird Though </b></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><b><br /></b></span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"><b>The Russians Were The Wost They Were Good Bad People But They Got Under My Skin Throughout The Season </b></span></p><p></p><p><b><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">So I'll Go With Ron, Riaz, &amp; Clavo Cruz </span></b></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>i still think my favorite bad man was Clavio, i guess cause i like him and he seems like such a nice guy in person. i saw several interviews that a friend did for cbs here in Orlando. i almost met him but as usual i was late getting to the station. if i had known he was there i'd been there 5 hours earlier. i was more interested in meeting him than david caruso. as hard as that is to believe. i loves H not david caruso... H rules jeanne </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p></p><blockquote><div><cit></cit><b>gingin6 wrote: </b><p>or when wolfe almost lost his eye from a nail. Whatever villian did that. season 4episode 408. </p></div></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>sorry but that wasn't a villian...that was a total accident from the g/f of the guy that was bein harrassed by the soon-to-be-ex wife. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p></p><blockquote><div><cit></cit><b>kylesangel wrote: </b><p>Okay since I fairly new to the whole CSI:Miami scene (I only started watching it after Kyle came on... I mean I saw enough before than to know that the Mala Noche and Clavo Cruz were bad people). But in my view I am going to have to say Ron Saris. Only because Ron managed to work his way into Horatio's family and that made Horatio nervous. Imagine having someone like that living with your kid? Ron is creepy and I cannot wait for him to go down in flames like all the other ones that dare oppose Horatio. </p></div></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>Nervous?? lol that's a good way to put it...if anyone recalls he told Ron Saris that if anything happened to julia orKyle...He'd kill him...no threat just a vow. gotta love a man that will care for his family like that without hesitation. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><p><span id="previewMessage" class="postbody">I'm new to this although I've been a fan of CSI:Miami for a very long time and sorry but to love H you HAVEto love David Caruso... </span><p><blockquote><div><cit></cit><b>furrymom1 wrote: </b><p>i still think my favorite bad man was Clavio, i guess cause i like him and he seems like such a nice guy in person. i saw several interviews that a friend did for cbs here in Orlando. i almost met him but as usual i was late getting to the station. if i had known he was there i'd been there 5 hours earlier. i was more interested in meeting him than david caruso. as hard as that is to believe. i loves H not david caruso... H rules jeanne </p></div></blockquote><span id="previewMessage" class="postbody"><p><br /></p><p></p></span></p></p><p>he made Horatio Caine what and whom he is. Personally they will NEVEREVERbe able to replace him like they tried to replace William Petersons character on CSI: Lawarence Fishborn is a good actor but not for that roll. Iwill stop watchin CSI:Miami the day they try that </p></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:48:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">Welcome to the board &quot;Desertlady66&quot;. I'm with you 100% on the DC/H-Man being CSI: Miami. DC created Lt. Horatio Caine and no one would be able to fill his shoes or provide a replacement. If DC ever leaves the show, CSI: Miami is doomed! </span></span></p><hr /><p><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">I still say Clavo Cruz was the best bad guy. There was just a magical screen chemistry between him and Horatio. Ron Saris got a little more menancing towards the end of S7 and a little less wacky, but the chemistry is just not as strong between him and H as it was between Clavo and H. </span></span></p><p><hr /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><a name="OLE_LINK2"></a><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-size: larger">H-COOL <img alt="" src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" /></span></span></span><a name="OLE_LINK1"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: #800000"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK2">Aka: &ldquo;ole' Board Tweaker&quot; </span></span></span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: #800000"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK1"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK2"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">&ldquo;Keep me posted.&rdquo; - Lt. Horatio Caine </i></b></span></span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK1"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK2"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><o:p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: #800000">&quot;Tweakers just tweak till they drop...&quot; - Det. Frank Tripp </span></span></o:p></i></b></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: #800000"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK1"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK2">4y-1=3b[Nh] is my favorite actor, TV cop, and H-ERO! Gig&rsquo;em H! <img alt="" src="/forum/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" /></span></span></span></span></p><p></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>ty so far this is the best board i've found i like and yeah....CSI:Miami is over if they ever change H...god forbid <img src="/forum/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" /></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Ron Saris is the best to me.  He carries the scenes, especially those with the big "H" involved.  Unlike DC, Kim Coates can really act.  He is a scene stealer and makes "H" look as lame as he really is.  And note, he's not intimidated by the unintimidating one liners the big "H" throws around.  "H" is humorous though.. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I like ron saris as a bad guy. He is clever and very unnerving. I do like the IDEA of the russians but i think their part was badly written. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span class="postbody" id="previewMessage"><blockquote><div><cit><b>borncsi132 wrote: </b><p>I like ron saris as a bad guy. He is clever and very unnerving. I do like the IDEA of the russians but i think their part was badly written. </p></cit></div></blockquote><br /></span>I agree with you on that one.Russians are good bad guys but still... </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I think that there has to be several requirements for the Best Bad Guy. Of course one of them has to be that he keeps reappearing in episode after episode. Another has to be that he is the ultimate antagoist in the story. Lastly I believe that the bad guy has to have a relationship with the protagonist of the story that evolves on a personal level. Keeping all these things in mind I believe only one guy fits all three. That guy is Ron Saris. </p><p></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I think the Cruz brothers tied for best bad guy.  with Ron coming in a very close second.and, although I detest Ryan, I thought that guy that kidnapped and tortured him was right up there for honourable mention. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>See, I look at the best bad guy as someone who can hurt another, do unthinkable things to them, and have no remorse or feelings about it.  The person could be a repeat criminal without having a repeat role on the show.  That is why I picked the perv, make me want to gag, tear his flesh from his skin guy from "Broken".  I also have to say, the man who killed the retarded man on an episode (sorry, can't think of name right now) REALLY made me mad too.  Hurting kids, special needs people, and animals always seems to bother me a little more because I feel they are even more innocent victims. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #0000ff">Best bad guy by definition would have to be Henry Darius (no remorse); next would be Ron Saris (evil, personally connected to H). The mentally challenged guy was Eugene (&quot;pardner); but I forget the bad guys name (Eugene kept saying it was ???, but it was actuallly the name of the guys sneakers; and that was all Eugene could see from his hiding place. Can't remember) </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>The sneaks were Coltons and the episode was "Witness to Murder."  Don't know the bad guy's name either though. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #0000ff">I remembered Colton earlier today. IMO that was one of the finer H episodes. Loved the way he listened to Eugene; and honored him. </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I wanted to beat that guys a ss myself when he said he was a retard and did him a favor. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Since I don't get so heavily involved in this,and I'm a long way behind in episodes and haven't seen all what is happening with Ron/Julia/Kyle or The Russian Mob etc - I will have to say Clavo Cruz was the best bad guy. </p><p>He is the only one that sticks in my mind. He was so cocky and a real smart-alec, and he thought he could get away with anything. I loved it when Horatio revealed that his Mother had had an affair and that his diplomatic father wasn't really his Dad and he didn't actually have immunity. Classic scene. Top points to his 'Dad' for handing him over to Horatio. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>What season are you on?  Now have you not seen any of season 7? </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #0000ff">I'm leaning more toeward Ron Saris now. He reminds me of some evil used car salesman, ICK. </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I agree ron is the worst. </p><p>He married Horatio 's ex? can yuo believe that? </p><p>it was funny though when Horatio blew up his yaht and Ron's face got disfigured! <img alt="" src="/forum/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" /></p><p>love to all, </p><p>Calleigh Duquesne </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #0000ff">Yes, great cliff hanger. I just knew Ron escaped though, you knew that H knew he wasn't killed for sure too. Did you think Ron got killed, or he had escaped? </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Oh  I think when they stated they didn't find a body we knew he'd be back some day. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-size: medium">Bringing this forward for the newbies to add to, and so the next season of bad guys can get a mention too. </span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Other than the guy who killed Eugene, and Stuart the perv from "Broken,"  I'm really putting Stetler up there.  He's supposed to be on our side of the law, and he takes every chance he can to hurt the team.  He's like a traitor, and there's nothing much worse than a traitor- someone you can't trust who is supposed to be on your side. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I was watching &quot;A Walk in the Clouds&quot; the other night, and I couldn't figure out why the father looked so damn familiar. Finally I realized that it was Stetler who was the boys father in the movie. It was so weird to see him in a caring role. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><p style="text-align: center"><b><span style="color: #800000"><span style="font-size: medium">clavo cruz had an interesting character as a bad guy </span></span></b></p></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Oct 2009 14:44:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #333399">I think Clavo is at the top of the list, then Ron Saris and Stetler (together or separate). </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>I had a problem with the other two because they hurt more innocent, for lack of a better word (Not that all vics aren't innocent), victims.  Children and the mentally challenged.  I was in tears both the eps. </p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:25:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #000080">That Eugene episode gets to me everytime. </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:44:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Breaks my heart and gets me so angry the guy is unaffected and thinks it isn't a big deal because of his condition. </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #333399">It is all too common in today's world that various people groups are looked down on or seen as having less value, like mentally challeneged, disabled and the elderly. They are either ignored, or worse, they are abused. What is the name of the Eugene episode? </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>"Witness to Murder" </p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><b><span style="color: #800000">Clavo Cruz.....he himself did everything....Ron Saris need to die, story over. </span></b></p>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p><span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size: small"><span style="color: #333399">Well we know from an interview with the actor that plays Ron Saris (Kim?) that there is a 3 epi story arc, and that it &quot;doesn't end well&quot; for him. Has anyone heard anything further, or when the episodes are going to be? I imagine toward the end of season. </span></span></span></p>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:41:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <p>Ron Saris because the "H" man never gets him killed for good.  He just keeps coming back.  Then Stetler.  He is lower than pond slime. </p>]]></description>
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