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Corrine and Charlie need to throw immunity

ilovekelly75 — GMT

They need to get out Matty to make the teams even if Suzie's with the others now. In order to do that, they will have to lose to get Matty out. That's the only way they can get their power back.

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fresiaa — GMT

Or Sugar. The only sort of alliance she has is Ken. Mattie might go with Randy.

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seanboogie1 — GMT

MATTY DOESNT LIKE RANDYCALLED HIM A SNAKE

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locotje — GMT

yea because losing challenges seems to be the best way to win in the game.How utterly boring next thing you know people will fall over themselfs to lose as fast as possible.

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i_hate_you88 — GMT

Locotje wrote: yea because losing challenges seems to be the best way to win in the game.How utterly boring next thing you know people will fall over themselfs to lose as fast as possible.

Seems to be the case since Ken and Crystal have done nothing but lose for the most part and now they are probably the most powerful people in the game because of all the twists.

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reyb99 — GMT

It really seems so, from what i see in the previews for the next ep.Randy screaming at Matty to drop the ball, and Matty shushing Randy. It sure looks like Randy, Corrine and Charlie will want to throw the challenge again next week.but i sure hope the producers noticed that in this episode, and planned the next Immunity Challenge to prevent such game play.

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locotje — GMT

but i sure hope the producers noticed that in this episode, and planned the next Immunity Challenge to prevent such game play.

I thought the producers did not change there plan mid-season HAIts frustrating me to no end that they seem intend on letting the biggest losers in the game get far with dumb twists and give the most annoying,lazy people a clear advantage

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reyb99 — GMT

Locotje wrote:

but i sure hope the producers noticed that in this episode, and planned the next Immunity Challenge to prevent such game play.

I thought the producers did not change there plan mid-season HAIts frustrating me to no end that they seem intend on letting the biggest losers in the game get far with dumb twists and give the most annoying,lazy people a clear advantage

HAHAHA of course they do! Makes for great TV story telling!! For e.g. the Cook Islands season, alot of the challenges involves swimming, and everybody knows Ozzy is King Poseidon! Did you point your fingers then? No? hahaha I like Ozzy too but I can't help but noticed the challenges (especially after Jonathan Penner and Candice jumped over to the other tribe) are mainly water-based. Sure, some of the challenges were planned before hand but i can't help but notice the producers always try to add in some twists. It prevents the players from trying to outplay the game and also gives the viewers something new all the time. This is what makes survivor interesting - all the unexpected twists and surprises!With that said, the basic rules are the same. The social aspect of the game has tremendous part and you cannot fault the producers when the players don't play a good social game (e.g. Marcus and Onions treating Susie badly and expecting her to vote their way).However there's a problem if the producers know that (both) the tribes are trying to throw the challenges, it not only shows bad sportsmanship, it destroys the show and they have to worry about this!

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sarasotamom — GMT

Absolutely, or my Bob will be gone. I really hope that Crystal and Suze do not go far. Crystal is so mean and Suze is just a coattail player.

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blackstream — GMT

However there's a problem if the producers know that (both) the tribes are trying to throw the challenges, it not only shows bad sportsmanship, it destroys the show and they have to worry about this!

If they wanted to avoid this, they shouldn't have done a late game swap like this. An alliance was bound to outnumber the opposing alliance and want to eliminate as many as possible before the real merge hit like 1-2 episodes later. Whereas an earlier merge like the first one, throwing challenges is a bad idea because who knows when you'll actually merge and what the situation will be then.

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locotje — GMT

But then was is fair about it that would mean that if you are playing a good game producers will change the rules so that you are at a disadvantage.If there are no rules then there is no social,strategic game anymore and then they may aswel give the top price to whoever they like. Maybe i think that way because i play semi pro tennis and in sport there is only one rule the strong win the weak lose there is no middle road

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fresiaa — GMT

reyb99 wrote:

Locotje wrote:

but i sure hope the producers noticed that in this episode, and planned the next Immunity Challenge to prevent such game play.

I thought the producers did not change there plan mid-season HAIts frustrating me to no end that they seem intend on letting the biggest losers in the game get far with dumb twists and give the most annoying,lazy people a clear advantage

HAHAHA of course they do! Makes for great TV story telling!! For e.g. the Cook Islands season, alot of the challenges involves swimming, and everybody knows Ozzy is King Poseidon! Did you point your fingers then? No? hahaha I like Ozzy too but I can't help but noticed the challenges (especially after Jonathan Penner and Candice jumped over to the other tribe) are mainly water-based.

I also remember a season where most physically strong players were voted off early. Suddenly all challenges were mere puzzles than physical. So, yes, challenges are probably changed to fit the production teams favorites.

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fresiaa — GMT

I think there is a good chance that BOTH tribes want to throw the challengeKota to get rid of Onion-Bob and to save Sugar and MattieFang to get rid of Mattie and save Bob.It will be rather exciting to see who manages to "win the battle for TC"

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locotje — GMT

That is what i was thinking bouth tribes will do there best to actually lose challenges what is this surviver the toughest show on earth or big brother the dumbest show on earth.

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reyb99 — GMT

Locotje wrote: But then was is fair about it that would mean that if you are playing a good game producers will change the rules so that you are at a disadvantage.If there are no rules then there is no social,strategic game anymore and then they may aswel give the top price to whoever they like. Maybe i think that way because i play semi pro tennis and in sport there is only one rule the strong win the weak lose there is no middle road

There are some basic rules, such as immunity idols protect the person holding it and every episode somebody will be voted out.The other twists add surprises into the game, not only for the viewers but it also serves to prevent the players from trying to "out-smart" the game too much. Because if the game is too predictable, the show gets repetitive and is similar to the previous season. Why would anyone watch the same thing over and over again?Survivor is never a purely physical game, unlike sports, and it is way more complex because of that. I enjoy the show because I like the strategies more than anything else. The challenges are fun and exciting too of course.In this episode, you can't fault the producers for "unfair" game.- The re-shuffle was purely random. - Old-Kota had the numbers for both new tribes, so Marcus had an advantage at the beginning. - Marcus didn't form a good relationship with Susie back at old Kota, and he didn't manage to persuade Susie to vote with him.- Marcus lost at the Immunity Challenge.If Marcus managed to change any of the above, he wouldn't have been voted out.On the other hand, say they do merge at 10 as they usually do, and Susie didn't flip, you'll have Kota 6 vs Fang 4 and for the next 4 episodes you'll probably see Fang being picked off one by one which is really quite boring IMO. In some seasons, players even quit immunity challenges for food because they are so confident of their alliance that they can afford to let the minority win. Is this fair? I don't know, but that's definitely boring and predictable. Glad they did some changes this time.

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reyb99 — GMT

Blackstream wrote:

However there's a problem if the producers know that (both) the tribes are trying to throw the challenges, it not only shows bad sportsmanship, it destroys the show and they have to worry about this!

If they wanted to avoid this, they shouldn't have done a late game swap like this. An alliance was bound to outnumber the opposing alliance and want to eliminate as many as possible before the real merge hit like 1-2 episodes later. Whereas an earlier merge like the first one, throwing challenges is a bad idea because who knows when you'll actually merge and what the situation will be then.

That's very true.I agree its quite late in the game for a second tribal switch.We'll have to see if the producers are able to prevent that next week.

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locotje — GMT

On the other hand, say they do merge at 10 as they usually do, and Susie didn't flip, you'll have Kota 6 vs Fang 4 and for the next 4 episodes you'll probably see Fang being picked off one by one which is really quite boring

I don't know i actually like the onion alliance and i now fear it will be them that will be picked off one by one the only difference is that i think they played a much better game then Fang and deserve to win. Charlie and Corrine are in a alliance with Randy and you just know he will turn on them sooner or later there only hope is if they can reunite with Bob but he is stuck there in the other tribe.

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fresiaa — GMT

Locotje wrote: I don't know i actually like the onion alliance and i now fear it will be them that will be picked off one by one the only difference is that i think they played a much better game then Fang and deserve to win.

They had it mentally easy, and frankly, I find that boring.I got hooked on this season because of the Fangs troubles and hardship. Eight episodes long we are watching (former) Fang struggle, and trying to survive lack of food and lack of trust. That's entertaining, and I applaud them for it.When the ground became hot for Marcus, he couldn't live up to his top-dog-attitude, and he is out. He is even such a bad loser to call them "villains", "it's unfair" and even threatens to get even at the jury. Now how weak is that?I wonder how Charly will fare under some mental stress. Frankly, not very well I expect.

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locotje — GMT

Yea they had it easy because they played a better game, Fang could have had it easy to but they choose to spend there time fighting that is there fault.

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ilovekelly75 — GMT

sarasotamom wrote: Absolutely, or my Bob will be gone. I really hope that Crystal and Suze do not go far. Crystal is so mean and Suze is just a coattail player.

Suzie I think wil get as far as fifth or sixth, but no further than that.

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cns3e — GMT

Locotje wrote:

On the other hand, say they do merge at 10 as they usually do, and Susie didn't flip, you'll have Kota 6 vs Fang 4 and for the next 4 episodes you'll probably see Fang being picked off one by one which is really quite boring

I don't know i actually like the onion alliance and i now fear it will be them that will be picked off one by one the only difference is that i think they played a much better game then Fang and deserve to win. Charlie and Corrine are in a alliance with Randy and you just know he will turn on them sooner or later there only hope is if they can reunite with Bob but he is stuck there in the other tribe.

Randy is the wild card. THe Onion ALliance has not kept Randy in the loop. They've made decisions and then shared, or not shared, the decision with the rest of the group, ie. Dan's eviction.But, Randy doesn't seem to like Matty. I can't remember. Did her like Crystal and Kenny? Because if he did we could have Ken, Crystal, Randy, and Susie in an alliance with swing votes from either Matty or Sugar. With Bob, Corrine, and Charlie on the other side. THey better start playing nice now! Corrine and Charlie allienate ppl with all their long talks without including others. THey are soooo smug and kocky and that will come back to bite you in the ass everytime! THink Ozzy, James, and now Marcus!

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locotje — GMT

They have to lose next challenge its the only way to save Bob from going under offcourse Sugar stil has the idol so its risky bouth ways.This new twist just totaly broke olKota's game they don't have a change now and instaid of seeing olFang get picked of one by one we will now see olKota get picked of its the same thing nothing more exiting and just as predictable the only difference is that olKota earned and fought for there victories while Fang just layed back and got the win on a silver platter.

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fresiaa — GMT

Locotje wrote: ...while Fang just layed back and got the win on a silver platter.

What silver platter? From the start Ken and Chrystals head is on the chopping block. Practically every TC one of them was voted for, and they have to play a card to avoid exit.It was another close call yesterday. I don't see any free ride in it.

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eRiKhMpSu — GMT

I think if Corinne and Charlie do throw challenges, its to save Bob from being outnumbered by Ken, Crystal, and Suzie. and even if they throw the challenge, its not going to be easy for them to take out Matty or Sugar. They are seriously going to have to take it slow with that idol. They should think that Sugar has the idol for being at Exile for how many times now.

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gonzo0213 — GMT

Okay Im sorry to but in. First of all, whats with all the poor Fang stuff? Fang got to decide who was on their team. From the start the entire "mothers got to stick together". Wtf. Suzie was one of the first to get chosen. they had a weak team from the start. Then no one wanted to be leader. Dan and Matty both physically able like Marcus, but what, don't have what it takes? Ok then they changed up. Kota chose strong people again, and avioded bad ones, like GC. Everything was chioce. In the new tribes they got rid of jackie? Why the heck? The way they voted people was stupid. And Crystal, everything said about her got exaggerated by her. At the end how was Kenny and Crystal thinking they could keep an alliance withMatty. He can't trust them, they got rid of Ace. And sugar, come on. Then Kenny and Crystal just never had an alliance ever. Kenny was strong, but with Matty. Crystal was in the olympics! What the heck. You think she had it more in her. A photographer and surfer were stronger. Matty, Ace, Sugar and Kenny would have been awesome. But whats done is done. One thing now with the days ahead is that Kota will win. How? Well obviously the Kota 6 now 5 will vote for themselves as council. Yeah they're that tight and close. At least the five anyway. And the idea of people just getting picked off. No, not at all. Everyone knows how the onion alliance is formed. Marcus, Charlie, Corrine, Randy, Bob, then Susie. Susie, then Bob, then Randy will try and double cross at some time maybe because they will see that the top three are too close. They need what is left with fang to do that or there will be double crosses within the happy home. And what Susie doesn't realize is that she can go far for the fact that she is weak. Challeneges against her with be wanted. That is how Marcus could have played her up to other top 3 or charlie. That simple. What everyone needs to worry about is top 2. Because that one person that is ur best friend will decide if you stay. Just like last time. I think one of Kota will win and i'd bet on it. As for next week, old Fang will fall when it comes to sugar and Matty. And Kenny being strong and possibly win, hell no. Oh well that my say.

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locotje — GMT

Okay Im sorry to but in. First of all, whats with all the poor Fang stuff?

Yea i agree they had there fate in there own hands and they choose to mess it up!!

Corrine and Charlie need to throw immunity

lillymom — GMT

I don't believe they change any challenges during the game. The challenges have to be set up and tried out before the season begins. It wouldn't be cost efficient to try to change them in a days time. I don't think the challenges are geared to specific players either. It just looks that way because some players have a knack for the types of challenges being presented, so those people emerge as the strong players.

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alkikodibear — GMT

From one of last weeks "charlie secret scenes " we learn he likes Matty. with Marcus gone- does Charlie have the same incentive to stick with the "kota 4" -- Will he find Randy's actions at the immunity challenge distasteful--has he had enough of Ms."I hate hers" outbursts? could he see new possibilities with sugar/matty & ken? or will he stick with randy & corriene cuz they are better choices to take to the jury (he is a lawyer- he does think in terms of playing to the jury) His voting confessional for dan did say "lawyer to lawyer- I don't trust you" stay tuned.

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locotje — GMT

What i'm hoping for is that he and Corinne wil align with Sugar and Matty to form a new front against Kenny and co. pretty please let it happen like that

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ohnoh — GMT

eRiKhMpSu wrote: I think if Corinne and Charlie do throw challenges, its to save Bob from being outnumbered by Ken, Crystal, and Suzie. and even if they throw the challenge, its not going to be easy for them to take out Matty or Sugar. They are seriously going to have to take it slow with that idol. They should think that Sugar has the idol for being at Exile for how many times now.

Yes, but arrogant, oh so loveable and know it all Randy ... thinks that Sugar had no chance in hell of finding the HII. He claimed that wisdom in the last episode. He does not think that Sugar has it. If the whiz kid Randy convinces Corrine and Charley she does not have it and they go after Matty ... Sugar gives Matty the Hii - and Matty &Sugar vote odd Randy ... bye bye you mean, ugly egostsical creature! Randy was the idiot who claimed he was going to do nothing but lay low. He did nothing of the sort. He lied and connived his way into the onion alliance by turning on Dan, his supposed friend. With friends like Randy, who the hell needs enemies?

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sherrell3 — GMT

Charlie is going to need a shoulder to cry on when he finds out Marcus is gone-Corrine?Highly unlikely!

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BowieZ — GMT

Why do people define playing a "bad game" as performing poorly in challenges? That's not even HALF of what makes a great player.As far as I'm concerned, anyone who's made it THIS far is SO FAR playing a good game. Everyone who has lasted this long has made various strategic decisions that have worked out.If Kenny and Crystal make it to the final three, I just don't understand how anyone can claim that they "didn't deserve" to be there. Whoever makes it to the final three has outwitted, outplayed and outlasted everyone else, regardless of how they managed to do so.

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koorbnnyl — GMT

Why the fuck do you want the onions to have power? No...no...that doesn't settle right with me.

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locotje — GMT

If Kenny and Crystal make it to the final three, I just don't understand how anyone can claim that they "didn't deserve" to be there. Whoever makes it to the final three has outwitted, outplayed and outlasted everyone else, regardless of how they managed to do so.

They(or better there tribe) are the reason why this season is so poor compaired to other seasonsloosing every challenge made it very a one sided fight every week.Kota did what they had to do,witch is go 100% in all challenges or do you think they should have hold back to give poor Fang a change But now it looks like they will be rewarded for there laziness.

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locotje — GMT

Why the fuck do you want the onions to have power? No...no...that doesn't settle right with me.

Its a good thing then that i don't care what's settles right with you.If it was not for that lastminute change production made the onions would have eaten olFang alive no matter how much lying they did.So that to me makes them the rightfull winners no matter what will happen later.

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blackstream — GMT

It wasn't a sure thing for Kota even before the fake merge. If they had merged when they thought they were gonna merge, Ken's alliance had 4 people, plus susie as a possible swing (and as we've seen, she's more than willing to jump) making it 5v5, and with Sugar's HLL, it's more than possible that they could have gotten the advantage and gotten ahead anyways. Ken seemed pretty eager for the merge, which means he had a plan, and it was most likely something along those lines.

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locotje — GMT

Then why did they not stick to that plan,if Kota went down like that i could have accepted it better but i think your wrong.Kota was a unified team yea Susie proofed untrustworthy bud the rest would have stuck to the alliance i belief(atleast till all Fangmembers where gone),but Fang where a skattered group of people with tiny alliances that workted against each otherthis is also the biggest reason why they could not win a single challenge that and they had Crystal on there team Anyway we wil never know for sure now.I think this is something that repeats itself over and over again,one tribe chooses to kick there strong out and the other kicks there weak then the challenges become lobsided and production has to step in to prefent this,then the weak players who have formed alliances by then can just band together and vote out the strong again.The result is that the fysical strong don't stand a change ever.

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reyb99 — GMT

well if the physically strong alliance couldn't outsmart or outplay the other alliance in terms of strategic moves then perhaps they don't deserve to win? If they were really so strong, another alternative will be to keep winning the Individual Immunity Challenges all the way to the final two/three. No one can take that away from you. (well, except Natalie )

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locotje — GMT

I think different people have different skills and would like it if every1 can play to there skillset,thats why it would be better if about 85%to 90% of all challenges where fysical so at least one person that plays that game could make it to the final2-3 using only that skill(winning all immunity challenges).Lets say James from season 15-16 he is a nice guy but he could play this game 100 times and he would never get to the end because he dos not have the social cutthroat attitude other players may have,so for a player like that the challenges are a way to force himself to the end.I don't know just a idea.Has there ever been a fysical strong player in the final 2-3?

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samuelkc — GMT

It is a typical example that Marcus, Charlie and the whole Korta tribe may be a strong team, but they are not smart player of Survivor.... Being on the top in all challenges make them forget to they are of high risk based on the number game. Losing the challenge just like PG in Survivor China is definitely the best shot to ensure their winner status in the game.