ejetson2 wrote: I don't know whether to be happy or disappointed by this final group. They all deserved to be there.

bandfour wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: I don't know whether to be happy or disappointed by this final group. They all deserved to be there.

Jetson, I agree with you with one exception. *BAND*

hppygolucky wrote: I'm confused....was this here just a minute ago...or is it my imagination that they just posted the rest of the threads....like...ALL OF THEM?????????????????????huh ????

hppygolucky wrote: I'm confused....was this here just a minute ago...or is it my imagination that they just posted the rest of the threads....like...ALL OF THEM?????????????????????huh ????

JackieTN wrote:

hppygolucky wrote: I'm confused....was this here just a minute ago...or is it my imagination that they just posted the rest of the threads....like...ALL OF THEM?????????????????????huh ????

Welcome to the confusion party, hppy! Is this where we are meeting on Thusday this week?Filming location Wonga-Wongue Presidential Reserve, Estuaire, Gabon, Africa Original run September 25, 2008– December 14, 2008 Filming dates June 23, 2008– July 31, 2008 No. of episodes 15 No. of days 39 No. of survivors 18 Tribes Fang Kota Nobag Season chronology Previous Survivor: Micronesia Next Survivor 18 Still want to know about this Eppy 15 thing! HELP!!! Jackie

hppygolucky wrote: I'm confused....was this here just a minute ago...or is it my imagination that they just posted the rest of the threads....like...ALL OF THEM?????????????????????huh ????

cptndawg1 wrote: Dawgonit Band......You wrote the following and I can't hardly hold my water waiting to see this........cd1 Epsidoe # 13

cptndawg1 wrote: Dawgonit Band......You wrote the following and I can't hardly hold my water waiting to see this........cd1 Epsidoe # 13

Lookie, lookie - It's my other partner-in-trouble!! - Figures when there's hooliganism? (sp?) around, here he be! You hold yourself, now.. - I'm not the maid around this place, lol.Oh, and what exactly was I in trouble for last night again? - I'm tellin'!! :-p - Hmm (who would I tell, I'm wondering..)?! - Well neveryoumind!!So... whatcha doing?? Me..

bandfour wrote:

JackieTN wrote:

hppygolucky wrote: I'm confused....was this here just a minute ago...or is it my imagination that they just posted the rest of the threads....like...ALL OF THEM?????????????????????huh ????

Welcome to the confusion party, hppy! Is this where we are meeting on Thusday this week?Filming location Wonga-Wongue Presidential Reserve, Estuaire, Gabon, Africa Original run September 25, 2008– December 14, 2008 Filming dates June 23, 2008– July 31, 2008 No. of episodes 15 No. of days 39 No. of survivors 18 Tribes Fang Kota Nobag Season chronology Previous Survivor: Micronesia Next Survivor 18 Still want to know about this Eppy 15 thing! HELP!!! Jackie

Jackie, There are 2 possibilities. Possibility # 1Thursday - Eppy 13Sunday - Eppy 14 (2 hours)Sunday - Eppy 15 (reunion) Possibility # 2Thursday - Eppy 13Sunday - Eppy 14 & 15 (2 hours)Sunday - Reunion *BAND*

cptndawg1 wrote: Dawgonit Band......You wrote the following and I can't hardly hold my water waiting to see this........cd1 Epsidoe # 13

Dear Cptn.Please stay away from tooth brushes tonight Jackie

JackieTN wrote: Directv's listing for tonight:
"The Good Guys Should Win in the End" Wonder who says this? Sugar? Matty? Can't see any of the rest saying it! A pushy castaway could land in hot water after using guilt to controll any ally; Is this Ken pushing Bob because of the last vote? Or Bob because of the Randy laughing Rally? Or Crystal being a Big Bully? the hidden Immunity Idol is put into play at the Tribal council; If we are talking the 'Real' HII that means 'Sugar' will either play it herself or give it to someone, if so who? Or are we talking about Bob's fake? one castaway is eliminated. There goes all the theories on a double a elimination tonight! Please, let it be Crystal (or Kenny)!

ejetson2 wrote:

JackieTN wrote: Directv's listing for tonight:
"The Good Guys Should Win in the End" Wonder who says this? Sugar? Matty? Can't see any of the rest saying it! A pushy castaway could land in hot water after using guilt to controll any ally; Is this Ken pushing Bob because of the last vote? Or Bob because of the Randy laughing Rally? Or Crystal being a Big Bully? the hidden Immunity Idol is put into play at the Tribal council; If we are talking the 'Real' HII that means 'Sugar' will either play it herself or give it to someone, if so who? Or are we talking about Bob's fake? one castaway is eliminated. There goes all the theories on a double a elimination tonight! Please, let it be Crystal (or Kenny)!

I really wish they wouldn't give away things like that on previews. Now, we all know that the HII will be played tonight and there won't be any suspense in it at all. I've never understood the need for previews of these kinds of shows. They're not going to draw in someone who hasn't watched all season because "the HII will be played tonight". All they're doing is spoiling the surprise for the real fans.

turtlebird84 wrote: ARGH!!!! Real life means I can't watch while it's really on!!!!! I hate when that happens.

JackieTN wrote: HAP - YSURVIVORDAY EVERYONE!!!

JackieTN wrote:

ejetson2 wrote:

- ackieTN wrote: Directv's listing for tonight:
"The Good Guys Should Win in the End" Wonder who says this? Sugar? Matty? Can't see any of the rest saying it! A pushy castaway could land in hot water after using guilt to controll any ally; Is this Ken pushing Bob because of the last vote? Or Bob because of the Randy laughing Rally? Or Crystal being a Big Bully? the hidden Immunity Idol is put into play at the Tribal council; If we are talking the 'Real' HII that means 'Sugar' will either play it herself or give it to someone, if so who? Or are we talking about Bob's fake? one castaway is eliminated. There goes all the theories on a double a elimination tonight! Please, let it be Crystal (or Kenny)!

I really wish they wouldn't give away things like that on previews. Now, we all know that the HII will be played tonight and there won't be any suspense in it at all. I've never understood the need for previews of these kinds of shows. They're not going to draw in someone who hasn't watched all season because "the HII will be played tonight". All they're doing is spoiling the surprise for the real fans.

Dear EJ,Sorry, didn't mean to ruin anything for you! i've been putting these thing on all season and they are so vague it usually just gets us guessing what does it mean before the show. The only thing that i see as a spoiler is knowing that only one person is going to the Ponderosa tonight not two. And they put that on every Eppy except the recap. We still don't know if it's the real HII or the Fake or both.They usually quote at least one of the castaways and give that Eppy that title, Like when Sugar called Ace a snake. Or Gillian with her elephant dung.The red is my guessing not facts. Heck they could send someone to Ei again and they come back with a HII. I'm sure the Sunday paper, TV Guide, Dish TV and Cable probably do the same. They use to have these types of previews on the home page. But I will not put this on for Sunday or next season as I don't want anyone mad at me!Jackie

bandfour wrote: Bob picked Crystal first, interesting. *BAND*

JackieTN wrote: Question to anyone who might know!I went back today to look at my first posts on the Cast's back on 8/28/08, to see how my mind might have changed since reading their bio's for each of the castaways. But someone has taken off Jessica/Sugars CBS Admin Thread and therefore my post, So does anyone know what happened?I know I said something about her being another agency placement, like Parv and Amanda. Once the Eppy's start i don't usually go back like that so it was a surprise to me. So what happened?Jackie

ejetson2 wrote: If Sugar gets Crystal out tonight, then I give her HUGE props.

ejetson2 wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: If Sugar gets Crystal out tonight, then I give her HUGE props.

Absolutely HUGE props! That was brilliant! [/quoteI agree. Sugar played it well, Matty still in game, Bob is heavy and what the heck is Susie doing

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ejetson2 wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: If Sugar gets Crystal out tonight, then I give her HUGE props.

Absolutely HUGE props! That was brilliant!

ABSOLUTELY

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bandfour wrote:

JackieTN wrote: Question to anyone who might know!I went back today to look at my first posts on the Cast's back on 8/28/08, to see how my mind might have changed since reading their bio's for each of the castaways. But someone has taken off Jessica/Sugars CBS Admin Thread and therefore my post, So does anyone know what happened?I know I said something about her being another agency placement, like Parv and Amanda. Once the Eppy's start i don't usually go back like that so it was a surprise to me. So what happened?Jackie

Jackie, I hadn't been over to teh cast section since episode 3. I have not idea where the Sugar (Jessica) thread went. I there had been any inappropriate posts CBS could just have eliminated the posts. After the season gets into full swing I just have little interest in the cast threads. *BAND*

I know what you mean, Band after the eppys start this is usually where I stay also. It just seems odd that her whole thread is gone!Jackie

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ejetson2 wrote: That's too big, band.

have to scroll over to quote band

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30383/451859.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30383/451859.page GMT Just when you think the season couldnt get any better! That was SWEET !!! Now Kenny is all alone! I hope Bob wins! Kenny, I hope you are next to go!

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30383/451862.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30383/451862.page GMT Although she has been playing the game for a while, I haven't liked Sugar. Tonight I loved her!

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schely10 wrote: Just when you think the season couldnt get any better! That was SWEET !!! Now Kenny is all alone! I hope Bob wins! Kenny, I hope you are next to go!

yep kenny you're next. crystal still routing for him but i would have felt set up by him. oh well, what a game. final two bob and sugar. Go Survivor Fans!

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Mrs_JR47 wrote:

ejetson2 wrote:

- jetson2 wrote: If Sugar gets Crystal out tonight, then I give her HUGE props.

Absolutely HUGE props! That was brilliant! [/quoteI agree. Sugar played it well, Matty still in game, Bob is heavy and what the heck is Susie doing

Dear EJ and Mrs,Sugar is on pointe tonight! Glad Bob didn't have to lie to Ken. Matty, I'm glad your so nice that someone saved you! Ken you finally out smarted yourself. Susie you really know when to head for the lifeboat. And Crystal I'm glad it was you!The love-in at the Ponderosa is no more! Jackie

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cpt_mac wrote: [size - 18]One of the All-Time BEST episodes ... not because of the strength of the players involved ... but simply because of the completely random nature of the events ...Well, THAT and Crystal and Kenny FINALLY getting their well deserved reward ...[/size]

1. I think the strength of these players has been phenomenal.2. Why did they deserve it? They've been incredibly strong players.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30383/451905.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30383/451905.page GMT I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

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JackieTN wrote: Directv's listing for tonight:
"The Good Guys Should Win in the End" Wonder who says this? Sugar? Matty? Can't see any of the rest saying it! A pushy castaway could land in hot water after using guilt to controll any ally; Is this Ken pushing Bob because of the last vote? Or Bob because of the Randy laughing Rally? Or Crystal being a Big Bully? the hidden Immunity Idol is put into play at the Tribal council; If we are talking the 'Real' HII that means 'Sugar' will either play it herself or give it to someone, if so who? Or are we talking about Bob's fake? one castaway is eliminated. There goes all the theories on a double a elimination tonight! Please, let it be Crystal (or Kenny)!

I THINK ITS MATTY PUSHING ON BOB BOB BOBBY;BECAUSE NOW MATTY IS AWARE THAT BOB TRIED TO BLINDSIDE HIM=AN ALLY=WHICH HAY ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE AND BOB WAS PLAYING THE GAME BUT NOW HAS ADDED THE TARGET ON HIS BACK WHEN THE PLAN TOOK A 180.I THINK BOB WILL GIVE MATTY HIS FAKE IDOL AND MATTY WILL THANK HIM FOR IT AND MATTY WILL USE IT AT COUNCIL AND THEY WILL LAUGH ONCE AGAIN AS HIS TORCH IS SNUFFED.MY DISH WENT OUT MONDAY NIGHT SO I HAVE A BLUE SCREEN TV AND HAVENT GOT TO WATCH THE EPI YET BUT IM ONLINE AND HEADED THAT DIRECTION

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bandfour wrote:

ejetson2 wrote:

- jetson2 wrote: If Sugar gets Crystal out tonight, then I give her HUGE props.

Absolutely HUGE props! That was brilliant!

ABSOLUTELY Band,Can you downsize the star? I did a big post once and the whole thread was out of whack! Only half of the star shows the other half is on the other side of Bertolli!Thanks!jackie Just realized I was compounding the problem! My bad!

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ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

the one memory that sticks in my mind, and hopefully i got it right, at the very beginning when they were running up the hill for the immunity, matty was helping, actually pushing, i believe crystal up the hill and thus...

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JackieTN wrote:

bandfour wrote:

- jetson2 wrote:

- jetson2 wrote: If Sugar gets Crystal out tonight, then I give her HUGE props.

Absolutely HUGE props! That was brilliant!

ABSOLUTELY

Band,Can you downsize the star? I did a big post once and the whole thread was out of whack! Only half of the star shows the other half is on the other side of Bertolli!Thanks!jackie

darn jackie u brought it back. will look normal on next thread page

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ejetson2 wrote: And when you quote it, it makes another screen too big too.

oops u are right and i quoted from jackTN. i need shrinkage

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Mrs_JR47 wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

the one memory that sticks in my mind, and hopefully i got it right, at the very beginning when they were running up the hill for the immunity, matty was helping, actually pushing, i believe crystal up the hill and thus...

So, pushing Crystal up a hill makes him more deserving?He keeps being seen as a "physical threat", yet he's only won one challenge and that was pre-merge. He's obviously not a strategic threat because he hasn't come up with even one idea that they've shown. He's on par with Susie as far as game contribution and Susie is probably ahead because of the work she does at camp.In my opinion, Matty was lowest on the totem pole as far as deserving goes.

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schely10 wrote: Just when you think the season couldnt get any better! That was SWEET !!! Now Kenny is all alone! I hope Bob wins! Kenny, I hope you are next to go!

Hi & Welcome Schely!!!I hate it when somone gets too smug and thats what Kenny was doing! And I love blindsides so I agree that was Sweet as Sugar! Jackie

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ejetson2 wrote:

Mrs_JR47 wrote:

- jetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

the one memory that sticks in my mind, and hopefully i got it right, at the very beginning when they were running up the hill for the immunity, matty was helping, actually pushing, i believe crystal up the hill and thus...

So, pushing Crystal up a hill makes him more deserving?He keeps being seen as a "physical threat", yet he's only won one challenge and that was pre-merge. He's obviously not a strategic threat because he hasn't come up with even one idea that they've shown. He's on par with Susie as far as game contribution and Susie is probably ahead because of the work she does at camp.In my opinion, Matty was lowest on the totem pole as far as deserving goes.

guess i missed the word deserving, sorry, at first matty was my choice for survivor #1, but i have longed changed my mind and am rooting for bob and you are right susie is ahead too

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ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

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strensk wrote: Normally I would agree, but it is nice Crystal go. She was quite annoying, and honestly I thought she was at best worthless. She was rubbish in challenges, the only thing she did was strong arm people and vote the way Kenny wanted her to. Suzie is pretty worthless too. Sugar surprised me tonight. She is more intelligent than I thought. It just took her two weeks to figure it out.I think Ken, then Matty should be next. Suzie would get no votes from the first four jurors, and then it would come down to two people who for the most part played a pretty good game. Bob and Sugar.

Everyone left has played a pretty good game. The only one you could argue against is Matty.Crystal played the game well. She made a great alliance with Kenny. He was the brains. She was the brawn. They made a great combination.

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carriekins wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

I don't think he even knew what Sugar was planning tonight. I don't think Sugar thought he was smart enough to know what to do with the knowledge.

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ejetson2 wrote: 1. I think the strength of these players has been phenomenal.2. Why did they deserve it? They've been incredibly strong players.

Every "twist" favored these two players (Crystal/Kenny) ... their run of raw, unadulterated LUCK has been nothing short of phenomenal ...Their Gameplay? Less than average ...But then, hey, it's a game ... and they played the cards they were dealt as well as they could ...but seriously ... As we all learned from the movie "Forrest Gump"...Stupid is as Stupid does ...

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ejetson2 wrote:

carriekins wrote: [quot - =ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

I don't think he even knew what Sugar was planning tonight. I don't think Sugar thought he was smart enough to know what to do with the knowledge.

i disagree. when bob said what he said and did not give ken the necklace, i feel matty saw the light and you could see him do the calcuation in his mind, and knew he was safe

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cpt_mac wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: 1. I think the strength of these players has been phenomenal.2. Why did they deserve it? They've been incredibly strong players.

Every "twist" favored these two players ... their run of raw, unadulterated LUCK has been nothing short of phenomenal ...Their Gameplay? Less than average ...But then, hey, it's a game ... and they played the cards thy were dealt as well as they could ...but seriously ... As we all learned from the movie "Forrest Gump"...Stupid is as Stupid does ...

I think most people here would strongly disagree with you.

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philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

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j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

but he did not lie. ken was not up to go tonight

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Mrs_JR47 wrote:

ejetson2 wrote:

- arriekins wrote: [quot - =ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

I don't think he even knew what Sugar was planning tonight. I don't think Sugar thought he was smart enough to know what to do with the knowledge.

i disagree. when bob said what he said and did not give ken the necklace, i feel matty saw the light and you could see him do the calcuation in his mind, and knew he was safe

His look of "seeing the light" looks an awful lot like his look of "the pilot light is out".

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Mrs_JR47 wrote:

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

but he did not lie. ken was not up to go tonight

He felt he had. If Sugar didn't point out who they were going to vote for he would have felt bad and given it to Kenny. She gave him an out.

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ejetson2 wrote:

cpt_mac wrote: [colo - =darkblue][size - 18]One of the All-Time BEST episodes ... not because of the strength of the players involved ... but simply because of the completely random nature of the events ...Well, THAT and Crystal and Kenny FINALLY getting their well deserved reward ...[/size] [/color]

1. I think the strength of these players has been phenomenal.2. Why did they deserve it? They've been incredibly strong players.

Awe come on EJ.Crystal has been riding Kenny's coattails since the 2nd Eppy! I love Kenny and if anyone can talk his way out of a situation it will be him. So don't count him out quite yet! They could have gone after him this time! Sugar still seems to like him and so does Bob. Matty is mad at him, but for some reason he doesn't blame Bob (yet). Susie saw where the chips were falling that does not mean she won't go with Ken next time. It's a game and more than one person is playing and Kenny needed to know that!jackie

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JackieTN wrote:

schely10 wrote: Just when you think the season couldnt get any better! That was SWEET !!! Now Kenny is all alone! I hope Bob wins! Kenny, I hope you are next to go!

Hi & Welcome Schely!!!I hate it when somone gets too smug and thats what Kenny was doing! And I love blindsides so I agree that was Sweet as Sugar! Jackie

Sure was funny when Bob said that he would keep the necklace IF he won it if he thought he needed it.

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ejetson2 wrote: I think most people here would strongly disagree with you.

OK ... So? You know what they say about opinions ... right? I think Kenny is funny how he "crows" about being the "master" of the game ... he is a not-yet-quite-dry-behind-the-e ars kid with a very big opinion of himself ...And unfortunately he has quite a lot to learn ... and the world has a way of teaching those lessons he needs to learn ...And my guess is that he'll learn a valuable life lesson in next weeks episode ...

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j_jammer wrote:

Mrs_JR47 wrote:

- _jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

but he did not lie. ken was not up to go tonight

He felt he had. If Sugar didn't point out who they were going to vote for he would have felt bad and given it to Kenny. She gave him an out.

u do have that right. i don't understand how bob would even contemplate giving up the necklace. that was good on sugars part to give bob a heads up

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cpt_mac wrote: - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b]

It sure was!!! Do you think Kenny can see how much power Sugar really has?

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philsfan425 wrote:

cpt_mac wrote: [size - 18] - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b] [/size]

It sure was!!! Do you think Kenny can see how much power Sugar really has?

She's got the POWER sunday is going to be so cool. can hardly wait.

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ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

Bob is my guy but I can think of one thing! Endurance! He is the only one who had to stay at that Fang Camp the whole time! jackie

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strensk wrote: Normally I would agree, but it is nice Crystal go. She was quite annoying, and honestly I thought she was at best worthless. She was rubbish in challenges, the only thing she did was strong arm people and vote the way Kenny wanted her to. Suzie is pretty worthless too. Sugar surprised me tonight. She is more intelligent than I thought. It just took her two weeks to figure it out.I think Ken, then Matty should be next. Suzie would get no votes from the first four jurors, and then it would come down to two people who for the most part played a pretty good game. Bob and Sugar.

No offense but i think it took you the 2 weeks to figure out how smart Sugar is. I think she's been playing a pretty smart game from the get go. Especially since she hasn't won any challenges, at least none that I remember.

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cpt_mac wrote: - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b]

Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

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JackieTN wrote:

ejetson2 wrote:

- pt_mac wrote: [colo - =darkblue][size - 18]One of the All-Time BEST episodes ... not because of the strength of the players involved ... but simply because of the completely random nature of the events ...Well, THAT and Crystal and Kenny FINALLY getting their well deserved reward ...[/size] [/color]

1. I think the strength of these players has been phenomenal.2. Why did they deserve it? They've been incredibly strong players.

Awe come on EJ.Crystal has been riding Kenny's coattails since the 2nd Eppy! I love Kenny and if anyone can talk his way out of a situation it will be him. So don't count him out quite yet! They could have gone after him this time! Sugar still seems to like him and so does Bob. Matty is mad at him, but for some reason he doesn't blame Bob (yet). Susie saw where the chips were falling that does not mean she won't go with Ken next time. It's a game and more than one person is playing and Kenny needed to know that!jackie

OK, let's look at it.In episode 1, we all saw that Crystal, Olympic athlete that she was, was NOT going to be much of a physical threat in the challenges. So, what's her best strategy to advance in the game? Ally herself with someone who could help keep her in the game. She did just that. She may not have been the mastermind, but she was far from a non-contributor to the alliance.Everyone that was left, other than Matty, was playing the game at a perfect pace for themselves.

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cpt_mac wrote: Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS!

That has to be one of the highlights of this season. Sugar is definitely smater than anyone gives her credits for. Not convinced she can get to the end. *BAND*

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Mrs_JR47 wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=cpt_mac][size - 18] - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b] [/size]

It sure was!!! Do you think Kenny can see how much power Sugar really has?

She's got the POWER sunday is going to be so cool. can hardly wait.

Hate to remind you of this, Mrs. JR, but Sugar's "power" just came off of her, lest we forget! lolC'kins

carriekins wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

carriekins wrote:

cpt_mac wrote: - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b]

Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

holly067 wrote:

JackieTN wrote: Directv's listing for tonight:
"The Good Guys Should Win in the End" Wonder who says this? Sugar? Matty? Can't see any of the rest saying it! A pushy castaway could land in hot water after using guilt to controll any ally; Is this Ken pushing Bob because of the last vote? Or Bob because of the Randy laughing Rally? Or Crystal being a Big Bully? the hidden Immunity Idol is put into play at the Tribal council; If we are talking the 'Real' HII that means 'Sugar' will either play it herself or give it to someone, if so who? Or are we talking about Bob's fake? one castaway is eliminated. There goes all the theories on a double a elimination tonight! Please, let it be Crystal (or Kenny)!

I THINK ITS MATTY PUSHING ON BOB BOB BOBBY;BECAUSE NOW MATTY IS AWARE THAT BOB TRIED TO BLINDSIDE HIM=AN ALLY=WHICH HAY ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE AND BOB WAS PLAYING THE GAME BUT NOW HAS ADDED THE TARGET ON HIS BACK WHEN THE PLAN TOOK A 180.I THINK BOB WILL GIVE MATTY HIS FAKE IDOL AND MATTY WILL THANK HIM FOR IT AND MATTY WILL USE IT AT COUNCIL AND THEY WILL LAUGH ONCE AGAIN AS HIS TORCH IS SNUFFED.MY DISH WENT OUT MONDAY NIGHT SO I HAVE A BLUE SCREEN TV AND HAVENT GOT TO WATCH THE EPI YET BUT IM ONLINE AND HEADED THAT DIRECTION

Hi & Welcome holly! Enjoy the show! By this time next week we will all be going thru withdrawel symptoms! Jackie

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

carriekins wrote:

Mrs_JR47 wrote: [quot - =philsfan425][quo - e=cpt_mac][size - 18] - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b] [/size]

It sure was!!! Do you think Kenny can see how much power Sugar really has?

Hate to remind you of this, Mrs. JR, but Sugar's "power" just came off of her, lest we forget! lolC'kins

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

JackieTN wrote:

holly067 wrote:

- ackieTN wrote: Directv's listing for tonight:
"The Good Guys Should Win in the End" Wonder who says this? Sugar? Matty? Can't see any of the rest saying it! A pushy castaway could land in hot water after using guilt to controll any ally; Is this Ken pushing Bob because of the last vote? Or Bob because of the Randy laughing Rally? Or Crystal being a Big Bully? the hidden Immunity Idol is put into play at the Tribal council; If we are talking the 'Real' HII that means 'Sugar' will either play it herself or give it to someone, if so who? Or are we talking about Bob's fake? one castaway is eliminated. There goes all the theories on a double a elimination tonight! Please, let it be Crystal (or Kenny)!

I THINK ITS MATTY PUSHING ON BOB BOB BOBBY;BECAUSE NOW MATTY IS AWARE THAT BOB TRIED TO BLINDSIDE HIM=AN ALLY=WHICH HAY ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE AND BOB WAS PLAYING THE GAME BUT NOW HAS ADDED THE TARGET ON HIS BACK WHEN THE PLAN TOOK A 180.I THINK BOB WILL GIVE MATTY HIS FAKE IDOL AND MATTY WILL THANK HIM FOR IT AND MATTY WILL USE IT AT COUNCIL AND THEY WILL LAUGH ONCE AGAIN AS HIS TORCH IS SNUFFED.MY DISH WENT OUT MONDAY NIGHT SO I HAVE A BLUE SCREEN TV AND HAVENT GOT TO WATCH THE EPI YET BUT IM ONLINE AND HEADED THAT DIRECTION

Hi & Welcome holly! Enjoy the show! By this time next week we will all be going thru withdrawel symptoms! Jackie

JackieTN wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

Bob is my guy but I can think of one thing! Endurance! He is the only one who had to stay at that Fang Camp the whole time! jackie

philsfan425 wrote: No offense but i think it took you the 2 weeks to figure out how smart Sugar is. I think she's been playing a pretty smart game from the get go. Especially since she hasn't won any challenges, at least none that I remember.

carriekins wrote: Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

philsfan425 wrote:

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

Oh yeah ! The only thing I don't like about Crystal leaving is that while I was going " Oh yeah!!! " So was Corrine!!!!!

Phils, I was actually disturbing to me that I found myself agreeing with Corrine. I know have to reevaluate whether she has some redeeming value or I do not. *BAND*

philsfan425 wrote:

j_jammer wrote: [quo - e=philsfan425]Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

ejetson2 wrote:

carriekins wrote: [quot - =cpt_mac] - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b]

Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

Mrs_JR47 wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=cpt_mac][size - 18] - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b] [/size]

It sure was!!! Do you think Kenny can see how much power Sugar really has?

carriekins wrote:

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

I agree j_j,As 'likeable' as Bob is, and as ingenious as he is, he still didn't play the game as strongly as the others. But something tells me he'll be happy no matter what his place turns out to be in the finals.C'kins

j_jammer wrote: She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

carriekins wrote:

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

I agree j_j,As 'likeable' as Bob is, and as ingenious as he is, he still didn't play the game as strongly as the others. But something tells me he'll be happy no matter what his place turns out to be in the finals.C'kins

cpt_mac wrote:

carriekins wrote: Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

GREAT Minds Think Alike "C" ...

philsfan425 wrote:

carriekins wrote: [q - ote=j_jammer]Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

I agree j_j,As 'likeable' as Bob is, and as ingenious as he is, he still didn't play the game as strongly as the others. But something tells me he'll be happy no matter what his place turns out to be in the finals.C'kins

bandfour wrote:

philsfan425 wrote:

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

Oh yeah ! The only thing I don't like about Crystal leaving is that while I was going " Oh yeah!!! " So was Corrine!!!!!

Phils, I was acutally disturbing to me that I found myself agreeing with Corrine. I know have to reevaluate whether she has some redeeming value or I do not. *BAND*

Funny, Band!!! Oh no you don't!

ejetson2 wrote:

strensk wrote: Normally I would agree, but it is nice Crystal go. She was quite annoying, and honestly I thought she was at best worthless. She was rubbish in challenges, the only thing she did was strong arm people and vote the way Kenny wanted her to. Suzie is pretty worthless too. Sugar surprised me tonight. She is more intelligent than I thought. It just took her two weeks to figure it out.I think Ken, then Matty should be next. Suzie would get no votes from the first four jurors, and then it would come down to two people who for the most part played a pretty good game. Bob and Sugar.

Everyone left has played a pretty good game. The only one you could argue against is Matty.Crystal played the game well. She made a great alliance with Kenny. He was the brains. She was the brawn. They made a great combination.

lecordonbleu wrote: ever since a few episode ago i thought kenny was losing his biggest advantage and asset and that is sugar. he treated her as though she was just a pawn and got too caught up in his "power". stupid move. he had it in the bag if he only kept to his would with sugar. i think she is the player of the game and kenny would fall 2nd. but with crystal out, it's tough b/c she'd be someone you'd want to take to the final 2 b/c she's burned so many bridges....

cpt_mac wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: No offense but i think it took you the 2 weeks to figure out how smart Sugar is. I think she's been playing a pretty smart game from the get go. Especially since she hasn't won any challenges, at least none that I remember.

There are quite a few attributes I can see in Sugar..."SMART" however is NOT one that easily comes to mind ...Flighty? Sure ... Sexy, yeah! ... Emotional? .. You Betcha! .. FUN? Absolutely NO DOUBT!SMART? Only as in "Maxwell Smart" perhaps ... and maybe not quite that "smart" ... sigh ..

No sweat Cptn, I'll let you have your opinion.

bandfour wrote:

philsfan425 wrote:

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

Oh yeah ! The only thing I don't like about Crystal leaving is that while I was going " Oh yeah!!! " So was Corrine!!!!!

Phils, I was actually disturbing to me that I found myself agreeing with Corrine. I know have to reevaluate whether she has some redeeming value or I do not. *BAND*

j_jammer wrote: She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

carriekins wrote:

cpt_mac wrote: [quote - carriekins] Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

GREAT Minds Think Alike "C" ...

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=j_jammer][quo - e=philsfan425]Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

philsfan425 wrote:

carriekins wrote: [q - ote=ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

I like your new font style, cookie! (LOL)I can see Sugar getting to the final 3, but how is she going to over come the disdain from Randy, Corinne, and well - Charlie's no fan, either. If she comes up with a plan to oust Ken, there go 2 more votes. I think she should crawl back to her original alliance wi/Ken, or - take Susie and Matty with her. That's her best scenario, at the moment.. (I'm still thinking)! C-kid

philsfan425 wrote:

j_jammer wrote: [quo - e=philsfan425][quo - e=j_jammer][quo - e=philsfan425]Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

carriekins wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: [quot - =carriekins][quot - =cpt_mac] - b]Actually, the FUNNIEST thing I've heard in a VERY Long time was Sugar looking at Matty and in all sincerity saying "Let ME do the thinking" ... PRICELESS! [/b]

Have to admit Mac, when I heard that, I had to check my ears for water, LOLYep, she said that.. and we cracked up, here too. I think Matty was also stunned! The Canadienne

carriekins wrote:

j_jammer wrote: She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

Well all Sugar has now (and I don't dislike her really) is a hope that Bob and/or Matty will help her. She's no good in the challenges, and Idol-less so that brain that began doing the 'thinking' for Matty and her tonight better 'kick into high gear'! I actually think Bob respects Ken's gameplay - he's a fair guy, and a decent man.

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

bandfour wrote: TBird, The intro is back where they show the remaining Survivors and the Jury members. *BAND*

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=carriekins][q - ote=j_jammer]Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

I agree j_j,As 'likeable' as Bob is, and as ingenious as he is, he still didn't play the game as strongly as the others. But something tells me he'll be happy no matter what his place turns out to be in the finals.C'kins

cpt_mac wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: I think most people here would strongly disagree with you.

OK ... So? You know what they say about opinions ... right? I think Kenny is funny how he "crows" about being the "master" of the game ... he is a not-yet-quite-dry-behind-the-e ars kid with a very big opinion of himself ...And unfortunately he has quite a lot to learn ... and the world has a way of teaching those lessons he needs to learn ...And my guess is that he'll learn a valuable life lesson in next weeks episode ...

turtlebird84 wrote:

bandfour wrote: TBird, The intro is back where they show the remaining Survivors and the Jury members. *BAND*

I just got done watching my taped version of tonight and I have one word..... ........SWEET!!!!!! I noticed the return of the intro. I was watchin' for it. Real life was fun as well. Son #3 had his Christmas concert tonight.

philsfan425 wrote:

carriekins wrote: [q - ote=j_jammer]She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

Well all Sugar has now (and I don't dislike her really) is a hope that Bob and/or Matty will help her. She's no good in the challenges, and Idol-less so that brain that began doing the 'thinking' for Matty and her tonight better 'kick into high gear'! I actually think Bob respects Ken's gameplay - he's a fair guy, and a decent man.

bandfour wrote: There should actually be 2 more ICs. One to get down to 4 and one to get down to 3. *BAND*

carriekins wrote:

JackieTN wrote: [quot - =ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

Bob is my guy but I can think of one thing! Endurance! He is the only one who had to stay at that Fang Camp the whole time! jackie

j_jammer wrote: Someone has to ride back with her. 3 to a helicopter.

Please, please let it be Randy and or Corinne thats in the helicopter and please CBS give us a good video of what is being said and who gets pushed out! jackie

MitsukiAila wrote: Just remember to vote for Sugar now as Player of the Season!!!

JackieTN wrote:

carriekins wrote: [quot - =JackieTN][quot - =ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

Bob is my guy but I can think of one thing! Endurance! He is the only one who had to stay at that Fang Camp the whole time! jackie

carriekins wrote:

JackieTN wrote: [quot - =carriekins][quot - =JackieTN][quot - =ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

Bob is my guy but I can think of one thing! Endurance! He is the only one who had to stay at that Fang Camp the whole time! jackie

You know Miss Fumble fingers! I just got to the end so I guess I'll see everone in the morning! Have Fun!jackie

carriekins wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [q - ote=carriekins][q - ote=ejetson2]I'd like the Matty fans to give me one thing that Matty has done that makes him more deserving than ANY of the others that remain?

EJ you're rigt - He has 'suffered' a lot during the game, but that's a part of it. He hasn't come up with any grand moves, true.For me, it's the 'cute' factor, haha - But seriously, I want Ken to win C'kins

I like your new font style, cookie! (LOL)I can see Sugar getting to the final 3, but how is she going to over come the disdain from Randy, Corinne, and well - Charlie's no fan, either. If she comes up with a plan to oust Ken, there go 2 more votes. I think she should crawl back to her original alliance wi/Ken, or - take Susie and Matty with her. That's her best scenario, at the moment.. (I'm still thinking)! C-kid

carriekins wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [q - ote=j_jammer][quo - e=philsfan425][quo - e=j_jammer][quo - e=philsfan425]Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

The pondarosa is going to be a super blast.

bandfour wrote: There should actually be 2 more ICs. One to get down to 4 and one to get down to 3. *BAND*

carriekins wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [q - ote=carriekins][q - ote=j_jammer]She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

Well all Sugar has now (and I don't dislike her really) is a hope that Bob and/or Matty will help her. She's no good in the challenges, and Idol-less so that brain that began doing the 'thinking' for Matty and her tonight better 'kick into high gear'! I actually think Bob respects Ken's gameplay - he's a fair guy, and a decent man.

philsfan425 wrote:

carriekins wrote: [q - ote=philsfan425][q - ote=carriekins][q - ote=j_jammer]She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

Well all Sugar has now (and I don't dislike her really) is a hope that Bob and/or Matty will help her. She's no good in the challenges, and Idol-less so that brain that began doing the 'thinking' for Matty and her tonight better 'kick into high gear'! I actually think Bob respects Ken's gameplay - he's a fair guy, and a decent man.

Alright, I'll be waiting - You know I trust your plans.. - Wait - wouldn't it work better if we came up with a plan to blindside Howie?? (Cracking up here) - We don't need him - We need the guy 'with the cash', cut out the middle man...*wink*C yas tomorrow!

philsfan425 wrote: What are you saying JJ? Do you think they will make the girls ride back together? Oh no!!

ejetson2 wrote: He keeps being seen as a "physical threat", yet he's only won one challenge and that was pre-merge. In my opinion, Matty was lowest on the totem pole as far as deserving goes.

carriekins wrote: - Oh, before I forget, "Hppygolucky" was not feeling up to par tonight, and wanted me to say HEY to you all fr her!She told me to buy everyone on the eppy threads a 'round. I said Square, she said, nahh - has to be round!! So here's her Super-duper secret-recipe Christmas punch - laced with the *wink* - extra-special ingredients!ENJOY! - A.K.A. "Dig in, Y'all"!

ejetson2 wrote: Crystal played the game well. She made a great alliance with Kenny. He was the brains. She was the brawn. They made a great combination.

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=carriekins][q - ote=j_jammer]Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

I agree j_j,As 'likeable' as Bob is, and as ingenious as he is, he still didn't play the game as strongly as the others. But something tells me he'll be happy no matter what his place turns out to be in the finals.C'kins

JackieTN wrote:

ejetson2 wrote:

- trensk wrote: Normally I would agree, but it is nice Crystal go. She was quite annoying, and honestly I thought she was at best worthless. She was rubbish in challenges, the only thing she did was strong arm people and vote the way Kenny wanted her to. Suzie is pretty worthless too. Sugar surprised me tonight. She is more intelligent than I thought. It just took her two weeks to figure it out.I think Ken, then Matty should be next. Suzie would get no votes from the first four jurors, and then it would come down to two people who for the most part played a pretty good game. Bob and Sugar.

Everyone left has played a pretty good game. The only one you could argue against is Matty.Crystal played the game well. She made a great alliance with Kenny. He was the brains. She was the brawn. They made a great combination.

Maybe its just me but I think of Crystal as Kenny mouth piece! She has NOT been any kind of a physical player. The only thing she helped with was when she & Matty got Ace off the pole! Thats why Kenny wasn't afraid of her on physical challenges.Jackie

ejetson2 wrote: Yeah, winning challenges and making fake immunity idols that have helped him get farther isn't "playing the game".

desertbro wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: He keeps being seen as a "physical threat", yet he's only won one challenge and that was pre-merge. In my opinion, Matty was lowest on the totem pole as far as deserving goes.

I believe any winner is deserving, because the game changes and like chess, you have to make the best plays you can with the pieces you have left. Both Ken and Cystal did very well by outmanuevering the Onion alliance. But now the target was on THEM, and they failed to hold their ground. They should have bonded more with Suzie earlier on to cover their rears...oh, well...I think Ken made a nice play by outing all of Bob's promises, but even with the lies revealed, he's still more likely to win over any of the others when facing the jury. Crying certainly doesn't win the game, so Sugar's speech would get her ZERO votes. Matty had NO strategy and no real alliances, just wacky luck and little skill. Only Ken has a basis for a good argument, but he has to make it to F3. This is a real good mix of people who have no good reason to trust each other! Each has played both sides of the coin over the course of the game, so there's no moral high-ground here. I'm still amazed that Ken would put any trust in Bob after he lied in two TC's back to back.

cptndawg1 wrote: I echo the good cpt_mac's take on this episode.......For a supposedly 'lack luster' season, compared to all the hunks and flotation devices going to the end, we have witnessed a plethora of blindsides and the possiblity of a true applicant making it all the way......I think that this bodes well for a true applicant......cd1

j_jammer wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: - Yeah, winning challenges and making fake immunity idols that have helped him get farther isn't "playing the game".

Marcus helped win immunity and where does he sit?Winning Immunity isn't showing playing the game.Survivor is Social game. Bob doesn't have the social aspect at all.

carriekins wrote:

j_jammer wrote: Bob hasn't played a great game. He promised and felt guilty. Poor game play.If it wasn't for Sugar he'd feel guilty for his lying.

I agree j_j,As 'likeable' as Bob is, and as ingenious as he is, he still didn't play the game as strongly as the others. But something tells me he'll be happy no matter what his place turns out to be in the finals.C'kins

lecordonbleu wrote: ever since a few episode ago i thought kenny was losing his biggest advantage and asset and that is sugar. he treated her as though she was just a pawn and got too caught up in his "power". stupid move. he had it in the bag if he only kept to his would with sugar. i think she is the player of the game and kenny would fall 2nd. but with crystal out, it's tough b/c she'd be someone you'd want to take to the final 2 b/c she's burned so many bridges....

j_jammer wrote: Ken is a good guy. He just didn't know the difference between sure of himself and cocky....since he is a gamer they tend to know cocky. Ever been on Xbox live. Trash talkin' people...The last five are good people. All of them would do something good with that money. None of them would be selfish with it.

carriekins wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [q - ote=carriekins][q - ote=philsfan425][q - ote=carriekins][q - ote=j_jammer]She is smart.She knew Corinne was a mean spirited person behind her back.She found the idol. She has read people right and turned on Kenny and Crystal.....She has altered the votes and got people out. She decides who goes.....every person she has voted for has left.Kenny can't say that.

Well all Sugar has now (and I don't dislike her really) is a hope that Bob and/or Matty will help her. She's no good in the challenges, and Idol-less so that brain that began doing the 'thinking' for Matty and her tonight better 'kick into high gear'! I actually think Bob respects Ken's gameplay - he's a fair guy, and a decent man.

Alright, I'll be waiting - You know I trust your plans.. - Wait - wouldn't it work better if we came up with a plan to blindside Howie?? (Cracking up here) - We don't need him - We need the guy 'with the cash', cut out the middle man...*wink*C yas tomorrow!

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: - i]What are you saying JJ? Do you think they will make the girls ride back together? Oh no!! [/i]

hahha If Charlie is a smart one he'll ride back with her instead and forgo riding with Marcus.

carriekins wrote: - Oh, before I forget, "Hppygolucky" was not feeling up to par tonight, and wanted me to say HEY to you all fr her!She told me to buy everyone on the eppy threads a 'round. I said Square, she said, nahh - has to be round!! So here's her Super-duper secret-recipe Christmas punch - laced with the *wink* - extra-special ingredients!ENJOY! - A.K.A. "Dig in, Y'all"!

imho2007 wrote: I had that feeling before and tonight doubled it...that was all just a little too random and too smooth for me. I'd have to re-watch this entire season's epsiode before solidifying the thought in my mind but, at this moment, it sure looks like Sugar has been coached or is getting direction from the powers that be. I adore her but something is amiss with her trek through this season. Please don't be upset and start biting my head off...its just a gut feeling that I'm venting.

Love your name! Don't think your the only one who's ever thought that. I've had that idea cross my mind serval times throughout the Suvivor seasons of the past. And You could be right about Sugar too for all I know. But I sincerely hope not.

ejetson2 wrote: There's that mohawk.

Corrine will never make a living as a barber! Oh, I almost forgot, she probably hates them, because most are not college educated. *BAND*

philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

desertbro wrote:

ejetson2 wrote: He keeps being seen as a "physical threat", yet he's only won one challenge and that was pre-merge. In my opinion, Matty was lowest on the totem pole as far as deserving goes.

I believe any winner is deserving, because the game changes and like chess, you have to make the best plays you can with the pieces you have left. Both Ken and Cystal did very well by outmanuevering the Onion alliance. But now the target was on THEM, and they failed to hold their ground. They should have bonded more with Suzie earlier on to cover their rears...oh, well...I think Ken made a nice play by outing all of Bob's promises, but even with the lies revealed, he's still more likely to win over any of the others when facing the jury. Crying certainly doesn't win the game, so Sugar's speech would get her ZERO votes. Matty had NO strategy and no real alliances, just wacky luck and little skill. Only Ken has a basis for a good argument, but he has to make it to F3. This is a real good mix of people who have no good reason to trust each other! Each has played both sides of the coin over the course of the game, so there's no moral high-ground here. I'm still amazed that Ken would put any trust in Bob after he lied in two TC's back to back.

wyoseeker wrote:

carriekins wrote: [ - olor=darkblue] - Oh, before I forget, "Hppygolucky" was not feeling up to par tonight, and wanted me to say HEY to you all fr her!She told me to buy everyone on the eppy threads a 'round. I said Square, she said, nahh - has to be round!! So here's her Super-duper secret-recipe Christmas punch - laced with the *wink* - extra-special ingredients!ENJOY! - A.K.A. "Dig in, Y'all"! [/color]

Mmmm, enjoying that nightcap as I catch up on all the posts. Thanks so much, Carrie and Happy ! You ladies rock!Now... where to begin??First of all GREAT episode (or epsidoe... mmm that punch is delicious, may I have another? )I really don't know about imho 's suggestion about Sugar being coached or not. Either way, I loved how she saw Crystal's meanness to Matty ("kicking him when he was down"), and deciding to save him. And then hearing how Kenny wanted to vote out Bob if Bob gave him the II and deciding to help Bob as well. Maybe I'm just a naive, sentimental sucker, but it really touched my heart to see that all play out. And Bob taking Crystal and Kenny on the reward, having that spiritual connection with the gorilla. Mmmm, gives me shivers even now-- the good kind of shivers when something meaningful touches my soul. And Sugar mouthing to Matty to let her do the thinking... Thanks, CaptnMac for that priceless memory. Yeah, you might have thought it ironic, but really, who is playing the more thoughtful game between Sugar and Matty? I'd say Sugar. And she knows full well that the more people know the details of a plan, the more likely it can go awry with all the he-said/she-saids that can happen (as she just did that herself when she ruined Kenny's plan when she spoke of it to Bob).And finally, 2 more things: (for this post anyway-- I'm itching to post and see what's been said while I've been writing this) 1) Susieq , it was Crystal who was eliminated during the epi of Dec. 11.2) I don't want to spoil anyone's fun imaginings, but I don't think there will be a helicopter ride to Ponderosa. Remember when either Charlie or Marcus said that when they moved from the seaside Ponderosa to the larger camp that it was within driving distance to TC? Well, maybe they'll have one of those sightseeing helicopter rides for our entertainment .(edited just to correct a couple of typos-- yes I'm one of those picky perfectionists at times )

imho2007 wrote: I had that feeling before and tonight doubled it...that was all just a little too random and too smooth for me. I'd have to re-watch this entire season's epsiode before solidifying the thought in my mind but, at this moment, it sure looks like Sugar has been coached or is getting direction from the powers that be. I adore her but something is amiss with her trek through this season. Please don't be upset and start biting my head off...its just a gut feeling that I'm venting.

j_jammer wrote: Wow.The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

bandfour wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: Well , well , well, how many surprises were there tonight? Bob doublecrossing kenny with the II. Crystal getting voted out. what a show!!!

If Bob had given Kenny the necklace, would Sugar have given Bob the HII to keep him safe? *BAND*

cptndawg1 wrote: [b]Many, many good comments and observations.....I truly wonder that if the comments etc. would be the same of we had to suffer the deprivation that the contestants endure.....being taken out of familar surroundings.....IMHO, all of the contestants made it through the casting process (well, some of them did while others were recruited) and as such should be given congratulations.......It is difficult to truly say what we would do once actually on location.......The Ponderosa should be a place where enemies are no more....as in sports competition, once the battle is over, the friendships once again prevail.......and dawgonit, I sure wish that I was there......................... .....cd1[ - b]

bostonhuey wrote: That was brilliant of Sugar! As a Crystal hater, I am so glad that she is gone. She contributed absolutely nothing to the game. This may actually help Kenny if he gets to the Final Three. He'll get her vote and probably some more votes of others on the jury who may respect his game play. I would love to see the Final Three as Sugar, Bob and Matty. I like how hard Matty plays, he's a physical player who has pushed Bob. That blindfolded challenge looked impossible. You could see Crystal had trouble with it. Has she ever been competitive in any of the immunity challenges. Looking forward to Sunday night.

philsfan425 wrote:

j_jammer wrote: Wow. - The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

Wow! I'm almost sorry I even watched the scenes from the Ponderosa. Ok I get that they "Fake Four" (I do love that name) may be upset with Crystal for voting them off but do they have to be so immature ? I'm going to eat my words from my last post now, I do not like Corrine at all! There I said it. After seeing her slam Crystal's car door when they were gettign in the cars to go to TC I can't say I have much if any respect for her. That childish selfrighteous little girl needs to take a long look in the mirror and see just how truely ugly she is inside, imo. I did however, like what Charlie said. I feel bad for him that he's that afraid of the others that he can't stand his own ground. I guess he's move of a follower than I thought.

cptndawg1 wrote: Kudos to Crystal for being a genuine person on this most miserable of trips a contestant has to make...... The self appointed 'primadonnas' are now showing their true colors, with the possible exception of Randy as he indicated that he was a miserable individual to content with anyway.......

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=j_jammer]Wow. - The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

Wow! I'm almost sorry I even watched the scenes from the Ponderosa. Ok I get that they "Fake Four" (I do love that name) may be upset with Crystal for voting them off but do they have to be so immature ? I'm going to eat my words from my last post now, I do not like Corrine at all! There I said it. After seeing her slam Crystal's car door when they were gettign in the cars to go to TC I can't say I have much if any respect for her. That childish selfrighteous little girl needs to take a long look in the mirror and see just how truely ugly she is inside, imo. I did however, like what Charlie said. I feel bad for him that he's that afraid of the others that he can't stand his own ground. I guess he's move of a follower than I thought.

bandfour wrote: Does anyone understand how CBS picks the featured videos, the featured fans, or the featured topics? Some of the featured videos are weeks old. Don't they take the videos that have had the most views in the last 7 days?Most of the featured fans have no avitar (nothing wrong it that alone!). Also all of the featured fans have no posts on the Survivor board (the way I understand the new format a persons posts carry from one forum to another). Many of the featured threads have very few replies or have not had any replies for several days or weeks.*BAND* P.S. Also what is up with the link to the application for Survivor 19 being removed from the home page. I know that usually it is not posted until the reunion show, but once it is there leave it there.

bandfour wrote: DECEPTION? Jeffs preview for next week leads one to believe that there is another twist of some kind that is coming. Are they going down to 2 again with 8 on the jury? They did it last season!

cpt_mac wrote:

cptndawg1 wrote: Kudos to Crystal for being a genuine person on this most miserable of trips a contestant has to make...... The self appointed 'primadonnas' are now showing their true colors, with the possible exception of Randy as he indicated that he was a miserable individual to content with anyway.......

Crystal is indeed genuine ... but she played a weak game ... or perhaps you disagree?Randy describes himself as a "Misunderstood Prick" ...And I have come to appreciate his evaluation ... is he more "misunderstood" or more "prick"?I imagine that each one will make that determination for themselves ...

Hi Cpt I have to admire Crystal's - 'realness'. (sp.)? lol. - Apparently she sucked bigtime at the challenges (even in the rehearsals, practice-runs) - BUT - Jeff said she had the ability to laugh at herself, and admit her shortcomings. Read his blog at ew/popwatchdotcom if you haven't already!Randy's a sumthing, alright.. - but on that topic - I haven't watched Ponderosa yet, ppl. Is it as nasty as everyone is saying??? C'kins

philsfan425 wrote: A creative picture by JAH ]

bandfour wrote: Does anyone understand how CBS picks the featured videos, the featured fans, or the featured topics? Some of the featured videos are weeks old. Don't they take the videos that have had the most views in the last 7 days?Most of the featured fans have no avitar (nothing wrong it that alone!). Also all of the featured fans have no posts on the Survivor board (the way I understand the new format a persons posts carry from one forum to another). Many of the featured threads have very few replies or have not had any replies for several days or weeks.*BAND* P.S. Also what is up with the link to the application for Survivor 19 being removed from the home page. I know that usually it is not posted until the reunion show, but once it is there leave it there.

bandfour wrote: DECEPTION? Jeffs preview for next week leads one to believe that there is another twist of some kind that is coming. Are they going down to 2 again with 8 on the jury? They did it last season!

Band, you should go read Jeff's blog at ewdotcom/popwatch. There aren't any real spoilers - he's pretty tight-lipped, because by most of his cat-and-mouse descriptions, you can tell he's playing with us.. or is he? He injects discussion on the possibility of F-2 to F-3. Firemaking on stage, EJ ?? I can't see it, lol. Nor can I see a 'redo' after the jurists have watched the Season, but they DO have a plan. I like not knowing, personally, but I'm for an F-2, as always.I always look for 'slips' and I believe I may know (hope not) who one of the finalists is... - That being said, If I'm wrong, I'll clap for joy. Otherwise, he's all over the place - it's up to the readers to pore over and decipher - Although he's very good at "Misdirection"..., for the most part, his blog is entertaining, has attitude, and is a "fun side of J.P." - You should go over there and tell me what you think - sorry, that's a request, I'd be interested to get your take!Where is the preview you mean? On Youtube?Carrie

carriekins wrote:

bandfour wrote: DECEPTION? Jeffs preview for next week leads one to believe that there is another twist of some kind that is coming. Are they going down to 2 again with 8 on the jury? They did it last season!

Band, you should go read Jeff's blog at ewdotcom/popwatch. There aren't any real spoilers - he's pretty tight-lipped, because by most of his cat-and-mouse descriptions, you can tell he's playing with us.. or is he? He injects discussion on the possibility of F-2 to F-3. Firemaking on stage, EJ ?? I can't see it, lol. Nor can I see a 'redo' after the jurists have watched the Season, but they DO have a plan. I like not knowing, personally, but I'm for an F-2, as always.I always look for 'slips' and I believe I may know (hope not) who one of the finalists is... - That being said, If I'm wrong, I'll clap for joy. Otherwise, he's all over the place - it's up to the readers to pore over and decipher - Although he's very good at "Misdirection"..., for the most part, his blog is entertaining, has attitude, and is a "fun side of J.P." - You should go over there and tell me what you think - sorry, that's a request, I'd be interested to get your take!Where is the preview you mean? On Youtube?Carrie

carriekins wrote: Band, you should go read Jeff's blog at ewdotcom/popwatch. There aren't any real spoilers - he's pretty tight-lipped, because by most of his cat-and-mouse descriptions, you can tell he's playing with us.. or is he? He injects discussion on the possibility of F-2 to F-3. Firemaking on stage, EJ ?? I can't see it, lol. Nor can I see a 'redo' after the jurists have watched the Season, but they DO have a plan. I like not knowing, personally, but I'm for an F-2, as always.I always look for 'slips' and I believe I may know (hope not) who one of the finalists is... - That being said, If I'm wrong, I'll clap for joy. Otherwise, he's all over the place - it's up to the readers to pore over and decipher - Although he's very good at "Misdirection"..., for the most part, his blog is entertaining, has attitude, and is a "fun side of J.P." - You should go over there and tell me what you think - sorry, that's a request, I'd be interested to get your take!Carrie

Ckins, I just finished Jeff's blog. I do not know if it is a spoiler or just misdirection, but Jeff does possibly hint at one possibility for the final group or even the winner. I always enjoy Jeff’s blog. He has a good sense of humor. He does not take himself or the Survivors too seriously. I agree with his statements on the F2 vs F3. I saw too many seasons where someone wins the last immunity challenge and takes the least liked player to the final TC. The final 3 avoids that to some extent. However that said I like the F2 better. (Yes, I have changed my mind!)Is Jeff saying that they are going to play it straight up next season? Be still my heart! No, I am sure he is just toying with my emotions! Just like a man! *BAND*

cptndawg1 wrote: BAND..... You wrote: "I read somewhere that one of the players in a prior season had lost the individual immunity necklace. Does this ring a bell with anyone else?" Well I remember that in Season 6 (Amazon), Butch stored a bunch of firewood out of the rain, and sort of put the fire under a cover adjacent to the shelter so it wouldn't get rained on....Well, everything caught fire while they were away from camp....and I believe the Immunity Necklace got burned but not destroyed...At least that is what I remember......I can't remember anyone losing one except through non play......The fire destroyed their shelter, burned some clothes and melted Rob's "Magic 8 Ball"...........cd1

Thanks CD! That is the instance that I had remembered reading about. I missed much of that season and have not taken the time to watch it. (One of the things to put on my Bucket List :lol *BAND*

bandfour wrote:

carriekins wrote:

bandfour wrote: DECEPTION? Jeffs preview for next week leads one to believe that there is another twist of some kind that is coming. Are they going down to 2 again with 8 on the jury? They did it last season!

Band, you should go read Jeff's blog at ewdotcom/popwatch. There aren't any real spoilers - he's pretty tight-lipped, because by most of his cat-and-mouse descriptions, you can tell he's playing with us.. or is he? He injects discussion on the possibility of F-2 to F-3. Firemaking on stage, EJ ?? I can't see it, lol. Nor can I see a 'redo' after the jurists have watched the Season, but they DO have a plan. I like not knowing, personally, but I'm for an F-2, as always.I always look for 'slips' and I believe I may know (hope not) who one of the finalists is... - That being said, If I'm wrong, I'll clap for joy. Otherwise, he's all over the place - it's up to the readers to pore over and decipher - Although he's very good at "Misdirection"..., for the most part, his blog is entertaining, has attitude, and is a "fun side of J.P." - You should go over there and tell me what you think - sorry, that's a request, I'd be interested to get your take!Where is the preview you mean? On Youtube?Carrie

C'Kins, First I would hope that if there were a tie with an F2 that they would use the fan vote for the tie breaker. Second I still need to get to JPs blog. I will let you know what I think! Third the preview was the one right after the show. *BAND* PS - I hit the character limit with the recap. I must control myself.

*Band* - First of all, I don't like the idea of us voting, as we've seen too much, and not enough, at the same time - if you understand, to qualify to make that decision, imho.I think you read what I read in Jeff's blog. - That's the place to go to to ask? axs? J/Kidding! him questions, too.And I wanted to let you know - I was going to give you a "CONTROL" button for your Recap(s) but I have to say this was your best one yet! Psst - Am happy you still like the F-2 - IMHO, there is much more suspense in them.. - and although, yes, the player at the end sometimes takes the straw person with them, it's not always the case. Colby and Tina? Many other examples... PLUS - I feel it makes them (the players) connive, and strive harder. (Play harder). BUT - they shouldn't be 'surprised' with it, as in Cirie's case... That was disappointing.Oh, and I spoke to Jeff Probst today!!!! He was busy reading YOUR Recaps!! - He loves them!!

C'kins

carriekins wrote:

cpt_mac wrote: [quote - cptndawg1] Kudos to Crystal for being a genuine person on this most miserable of trips a contestant has to make...... The self appointed 'primadonnas' are now showing their true colors, with the possible exception of Randy as he indicated that he was a miserable individual to content with anyway.......

Hi Cpt I have to admire Crystal's - 'realness'. (sp.)? lol. - Apparently she sucked bigtime at the challenges (even in the rehearsals, practice-runs) - BUT - Jeff said she had the ability to laugh at herself, and admit her shortcomings. Read his blog at ew/popwatchdotcom if you haven't already!Randy's a sumthing, alright.. - but on that topic - I haven't watched Ponderosa yet, ppl. Is it as nasty as everyone is saying??? C'kins

Yes, it is nasty and those freaks should be ashamed of themselves! They treated Crystal horribly and I cannot believe those are grown adults. ESPECIALLY CORINNE! I did not think I could possibly hate her more than I did but after seeing her reaction in TC and they way she acted during Ponderosa, I truly loathe her now. What a hideous, evil b*tch. I could just slap her! She is one mean, wicked woman. I don't think I've ever seen someone as ugly as her. Just hateful! And somebody needs to pull up her sarong; I could almost see her grits! Okay, now on to the game. Like you, I am rooting for Kenny but he has slipped a little these past two episodes. He is definitely not a good actor but I am still rooting for him. I would like to see him and Susie make it to the F2. Susie has been playing under the radar but I think she's smarter than people give her credit for. She's very crafty and I like her, too. I like Bob (he's a good guy) but if he makes it to the F2 or F3, he's gonna win hands down. I was really liking Sugar a lot but after this last episode, I kinda changed my mind a little; she solely changed the direction of the game and I don't see the wisdom behind it. She knows Bob is a threat but she doesn't care. Did she not come to win the million dollars herself? Just so long as a "good guy" gets it? Come on! The only reason I would want her to win is because I know how much it would make Corinne seethe. She would prolly turn inside out and that would be worth it alone, lol. And yes, Crystal was very gracious but I had a feeling she would be. I like Crystal; she's real. I hope this experience works out well for her in her life. I think it will.

pokerchick2 wrote: Yes, it is nasty and those freaks should be ashamed of themselves! They treated Crystal horribly and I cannot believe those are grown adults. ESPECIALLY CORINNE! I did not think I could possibly hate her more than I did but after seeing her reaction in TC and they way she acted during Ponderosa, I truly loathe her now. What a hideous, evil b*tch. I could just slap her! She is one mean, wicked woman. I don't think I've ever seen someone as ugly as her. Just hateful! And somebody needs to pull up her sarong; I could almost see her grits!

pokerc - ick wrote: Okay, now on to the game. Like you, I am rooting for Kenny but he has slipped a little these past two episodes. He is definitely not a good actor but I am still rooting for him. I would like to see him and Susie make it to the F2. Susie has been playing under the radar but I think she's smarter than people give her credit for. She's very crafty and I like her, too. I like Bob (he's a good guy) but if he makes it to the F2 or F3, he's gonna win hands down. I was really liking Sugar a lot but after this last episode, I kinda changed my mind a little; she solely changed the direction of the game and I don't see the wisdom behind it. She knows Bob is a threat but she doesn't care. Did she not come to win the million dollars herself? Just so long as a "good guy" gets it? Come on! The only reason I would want her to win is because I know how much it would make Corinne seethe. She would prolly turn inside out and that would be worth it alone, lol.

j_jammer wrote: Randy will not vote Bob and neither will Crystal or anyone who is voted after Crystal.

j_jammer wrote: He won't vote Bob because he's still bitter about what happened. He even said only idiots are left....not even mentioning that Bob isn't. He said ALL....If he had forgiven Bob he would have stated him as the exception. Randy would vote for Ken or Matty.

bandfour wrote: All, sorry about the BIG star back several posts ago! Is anyone else having intermittant problems on the CBS Survivor Web-site? I have locked up completely a number of times over the past couple of weeks. *BAND*

bandfour wrote:

imho2007 wrote: I had that feeling before and tonight doubled it...that was all just a little too random and too smooth for me. I'd have to re-watch this entire season's epsiode before solidifying the thought in my mind but, at this moment, it sure looks like Sugar has been coached or is getting direction from the powers that be. I adore her but something is amiss with her trek through this season. Please don't be upset and start biting my head off...its just a gut feeling that I'm venting.

IMHO, I have had my doubts about Sugar since the episode where she found the HII. Things seemed to easy for her to find the HII. The camera angles where just too good. If not staged, they were reenacted. Sugar then seemed to slide through. Going to EI was not a punishment, but a treat. Even though she was away she seemed to always learn about things just at the right time. She has made all the right moves. *BAND*

carriekins wrote: - (Poker) - Chica!!I'm reading your post now... Didn't know we were both on-line at the same time! Nice to finally meet up with you..Hope you read my earlier "Hellos" Carrie

carriekins wrote:

j_jammer wrote: He won't vote Bob because he's still bitter about what happened. He even said only idiots are left....not even mentioning that Bob isn't. He said ALL....If he had forgiven Bob he would have stated him as the exception. Randy would vote for Ken or Matty.

Alright, I can see Randy voting for Kenny/Matty because I did hear him (at a TC, I agree - giving Ken props, and he was never angry at Matty). Okay by me! I guess you're right - he still must harbor a grudge for that 'trick'. But that's only if Sugar isn't around. He's still furious with her. I saw him on ET Canada 2 weeks ago, and heck hath no fury like a Randy scorned.. Oh yeah.. this will not be a very mature jury - Let's hope some sense prevails, though with the beginning of Crystal and whomever's next in line.I like though, (and hope) that "whatever" Corinne and co. dish out at the jury, come back to haunt them at the Live Reunion...

carriekins wrote:

pokerchick2 wrote: [c - lor=green][/color]

- Oh-Oh.. I believe you girlfriend. Those very same words (and worse) are being said all over the net. I'm disgusted, and I haven't even watched it yet... I hope Jeff gives them the 'Silent Treatment', is that mean? lol - Ah well..

pokerc - ick wrote:

No, never stop posting! lol, your posts are my favorite. I just can't wait for tonight! What fun that will be. I'm gonna make sure I get my grocery shopping done early today so I can be all settled in for tonight. Okay, I'm going to look at the end of the thread in #10 . . .

carriekins wrote:

j_jammer wrote:

Oh yeah.. this will not be a very mature jury - Let's hope some sense prevails, though with the beginning of Crystal and whomever's next in line.I like though, (and hope) that "whatever" Corinne and co. dish out at the jury, come back to haunt them at the Live Reunion...

JackieTN wrote: Dear Band,The one annoying problem I've had all season is the 'post box'! if the post is long or I quote someone and it gets to the bottom of the box it is hard to keep what I'm writing from going to the top! Then if you want to put a different color or size half the time it won't let me page down while high lighting! Does this make sence? The up/down bar goes crazy sometimes! has anyone else had this problem?jackie

carriekins wrote: Carri - kins' final Assessments and Predictions for the Season - (and Wishes, hopes and dreams) TCD , - I think I see where you're going with the Sandra comment, as my mind went there myself. I don't see anyone as "Lil" though...especially with Crystal gone) - so not sure that's going to happen, certainly not with BOB in there! I know everyone likes Bob , and not to say he's undeserving, but the jury's loaded with his former alliance members.It's going to depend on the II's now - It's pretty even between Ken/Bob/Matty in that order, then add Susie to the mix.... you just know she'll be in there if an F-3.I always like to believe that the jury will vote fairly and for gameplay, accompanied by a beautiful speech of why they are so deserving at FTC, however something tells me that this year's jurists are going to be a little peeved. (To put it mildly). lolI am going way out on a limb here: Matty and Ken will make-up, realign, to oust Bob , - who is more of a threat, IF he doesn't win II. Whomever wins II (other than Bob ) should take him out quickly...no more silly 'promises', now peeps, It's for a $1,000.000,and The Title. We still may see a car, good - Have a car,
Bob . lol Ken and Matty should stick as a Unit, and vote out Sugar next, and keep Susie . No brain-boggler there! Ken will convince the jury why he should win, but step it up a notch verbally, Kenny - no more "Meek and mild" guy. Matty can blah-blah all he wants, - I adore him, but 2nd place is no small prize, and he wanted a "Life Lesson". He got it. Matty is also handsome-enough and with deals, and endorsements - could do modelling, host shows.. like Hunter - remember him? Matty'll have a job, and be set, and a beautiful fiancee to boot. Ken IMHO has played the game most consistently throughout, - and needs the money - He helps out his family, and could use some education beyond that of "Smash Bros". Another thing I like about Ken is that he really is a decent guy at heart... and aww shucks, give his life a boost. He won't squander the money. Susie - I don't dislike your 'flying under the radar strategy' so if you do get in there, good luck! You just haven't done as much as the others.And Sugar - well she's now married to movie producer John Lands (who)?? lol but she's destined to get the most exposure out of this whole experience, a possible movie and t.v. career, - the next ' Marilyn '. Go for it, girlfriend! Glad you dropped Ace , now, I'll bet, hehee.F-2? F-3? Just let it be a good show, with a righteous winner. Excellent season!!! And of course I'll probably be wrong in my predictions, - but this was FUN! Good Luck to all! - And thanks for the entertainment! The Canadienne

bandfour wrote: Does anyone understand how CBS picks the featured videos, the featured fans, or the featured topics? Some of the featured videos are weeks old. Don't they take the videos that have had the most views in the last 7 days?

bandfour wrote: Most of the featured fans have no avitar (nothing wrong it that alone!). Also all of the featured fans have no posts on the Survivor board (the way I understand the new format a persons posts carry from one forum to another).

bandfour wrote:

imho2007 wrote: I had that feeling before and tonight doubled it...that was all just a little too random and too smooth for me. I'd have to re-watch this entire season's epsiode before solidifying the thought in my mind but, at this moment, it sure looks like Sugar has been coached or is getting direction from the powers that be. I adore her but something is amiss with her trek through this season. Please don't be upset and start biting my head off...its just a gut feeling that I'm venting.

IMHO, I have had my doubts about Sugar since the episode where she found the HII. Things seemed to easy for her to find the HII. The camera angles where just too good. If not staged, they were reenacted. Sugar then seemed to slide through. Going to EI was not a punishment, but a treat. Even though she was away she seemed to always learn about things just at the right time. She has made all the right moves. *BAND*

tskbaker1 wrote:

bandfour wrote: [siz - =18] I have had my doubts about Sugar since the episode where she found the HII. Things seemed to easy for her to find the HII. The camera angles where just too good. If not staged, they were reenacted. Sugar then seemed to slide through. Going to EI was not a punishment, but a treat. Even though she was away she seemed to always learn about things just at the right time. She has made all the right moves. *BAND* [/size]

Since this is a 'gut feeling' session, I feel that Sugar is smarter than people give her credit. She may be a the benefactor of CBS's editing team but I feel she genuinely found the HII using her wits.

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=j_jammer]Wow. - The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

Wow! I'm almost sorry I even watched the scenes from the Ponderosa. Ok I get that they "Fake Four" (I do love that name) may be upset with Crystal for voting them off but do they have to be so immature ? I'm going to eat my words from my last post now, I do not like Corrine at all! There I said it. After seeing her slam Crystal's car door when they were gettign in the cars to go to TC I can't say I have much if any respect for her. That childish selfrighteous little girl needs to take a long look in the mirror and see just how truely ugly she is inside, imo. I did however, like what Charlie said. I feel bad for him that he's that afraid of the others that he can't stand his own ground. I guess he's move of a follower than I thought.

bandfour wrote: From the Home page: Say Goodbye to Gabon: The fate of the final four rests in the hands of one castaway who reveals an outrageous decision at the most surprising Tribal Council yet. *BAND*

I can only believe that's Sugar.

j_jammer wrote:

philsfan425 wrote: [quo - e=j_jammer]Wow. - The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

Wow! I'm almost sorry I even watched the scenes from the Ponderosa. Ok I get that they "Fake Four" (I do love that name) may be upset with Crystal for voting them off but do they have to be so immature ? I'm going to eat my words from my last post now, I do not like Corrine at all! There I said it. After seeing her slam Crystal's car door when they were gettign in the cars to go to TC I can't say I have much if any respect for her. That childish selfrighteous little girl needs to take a long look in the mirror and see just how truely ugly she is inside, imo. I did however, like what Charlie said. I feel bad for him that he's that afraid of the others that he can't stand his own ground. I guess he's move of a follower than I thought.

tskbaker1 wrote:

j_jammer wrote: [quote - philsfan425][quo - e=j_jammer]Wow. - The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

Wow! I'm almost sorry I even watched the scenes from the Ponderosa. Ok I get that they "Fake Four" (I do love that name) may be upset with Crystal for voting them off but do they have to be so immature ? I'm going to eat my words from my last post now, I do not like Corrine at all! There I said it. After seeing her slam Crystal's car door when they were gettign in the cars to go to TC I can't say I have much if any respect for her. That childish selfrighteous little girl needs to take a long look in the mirror and see just how truely ugly she is inside, imo. I did however, like what Charlie said. I feel bad for him that he's that afraid of the others that he can't stand his own ground. I guess he's move of a follower than I thought.

tskbaker1 wrote: I feel sorry for Charlie as well. I like him and Marcus....they have potential. Corinne and Randy are lost cause and when they are around (as you can see via the clips) they make Charlie and Marcus horrible. When it was just the two of them they had fun and were not so grumpy.

pokerchick2 wrote:

bandfour wrote: From the Home page: Say Goodbye to Gabon: The fate of the final four rests in the hands of one castaway who reveals an outrageous decision at the most surprising Tribal Council yet. *BAND*

I can only believe that's Sugar.

bandfour wrote:

tskbaker1 wrote: I feel sorry for Charlie as well. I like him and Marcus....they have potential. Corinne and Randy are lost cause and when they are around (as you can see via the clips) they make Charlie and Marcus horrible. When it was just the two of them they had fun and were not so grumpy.

I would also have liked to have seen Charlie and Marcus without Corinne. She is poison. Randy at least had the civility to have a conversation with Crystal at the end of the one video clip. Charlie is afraid to be shunned if he talks to Crystal (succombs to peer pressure). Marcus would also likely be different without Corinne's influence. *BAND*

bandfour wrote:

pokerchick2 wrote:

bandfour wrote: From the Home page: Say Goodbye to Gabon: The fate of the final four rests in the hands of one castaway who reveals an outrageous decision at the most surprising Tribal Council yet. *BAND*

I can only believe that's Sugar.

PokerChick, I would also have to believe that it is Sugar. What do you think she does? Do you think she quits?? *BAND*

I don't think she "quits" per se but I think she would give up a possible immunity to someone who she thinks deserves to be in the top three and she'll do it knowing that it would cost her her spot. You know how soft-hearted she is and she'll prolly start crying again and say, "You deserve to be there, not me, sniff sniff." You get the point, lol.

tskbaker1 wrote:

j_jammer wrote: [quote - philsfan425][quo - e=j_jammer]Wow. - The Fake Four are HORRIBLE sports.I'm VERY...very disappointed in Marcus and Charlie. Randy and Corinne are vile humans and their poor sportsmanship is visible via Space Station.Crystal comes off the game knowing what she did wrong. She should not have yelled at Matty. Had she not done that Ken would have gone instead.....and she would have been mad. She really, really likes Ken and just disappointed that it was Sugar voted for her.She is a good sport.Fake Four: Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne....sadly (for only the first two) are not.

Wow! I'm almost sorry I even watched the scenes from the Ponderosa. Ok I get that they "Fake Four" (I do love that name) may be upset with Crystal for voting them off but do they have to be so immature ? I'm going to eat my words from my last post now, I do not like Corrine at all! There I said it. After seeing her slam Crystal's car door when they were gettign in the cars to go to TC I can't say I have much if any respect for her. That childish selfrighteous little girl needs to take a long look in the mirror and see just how truely ugly she is inside, imo. I did however, like what Charlie said. I feel bad for him that he's that afraid of the others that he can't stand his own ground. I guess he's move of a follower than I thought.

pokerchick2 wrote:

bandfour wrote: [quo - e=pokerchick2]

bandfour wrote: From the Home page: Say Goodbye to Gabon: The fate of the final four rests in the hands of one castaway who reveals an outrageous decision at the most surprising Tribal Council yet. *BAND*

I can only believe that's Sugar.

PokerChick, I would also have to believe that it is Sugar. What do you think she does? Do you think she quits?? *BAND*

I don't think she "quits" per se but I think she would give up a possible immunity to someone who she thinks deserves to be in the top three and she'll do it knowing that it would cost her her spot. You know how soft-hearted she is and she'll prolly start crying again and say, "You deserve to be there, not me, sniff sniff." You get the point, lol.

Hi Band and Poker,I just got done watching that 'decision' again and I DO believe they're talking about RANDY and his 'Million-Dollar Cookie' Decision!! (To vote for Bob, who didn't make him feel bad). - WOW!!!!C'kins - Hope you both enjoyed the finale - again.A COOKIE!! They should have named this episode "It all comes down to the cookie haha. Noone would have had a clue!!

bandfour wrote: Get on the Bob Bandwagon! *BAND*

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