<![CDATA[Latest posts for the topic "Everyone's games are dead "]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/list/106.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Everyone's games are dead Simply put, tonite's eppy proved it. Bob's is dead (he ain't alive just yet): He went from a band of one to a band of three and a half (I can't constitute Suzie as anything more than a vote at this point). He's now in position to win the game pending two immunity challanges.Sugar's is dead: She went from number 1 in a group of four to number 3 in a group of three and a half. Because she thought with her heart and not her head, she has little chance of winning.Kenny's is dead: For obvious reasons. He went from the kingpin to the zeropin and will pay the price for it at the next tribal. On a side-note, I was disappointed that he didn't do better at the immunity challange.Matty's is dead: He's number two behind Bob. Bob loses, he's the new #1. Of course, this requires Bob to lose...Suzie's is dead: She nailed her coffin shut when she betrayed Marcus.Crystal's dead: For real... Seriously, cat's have had better personaliies than her. And what was with the crying at the end?Oh, and one other thought... The preview.... SPOILER!!!!!

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/451895.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/451895.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead not bob or matty's game. After tonight one of these two are going to win this game

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gomatty3 wrote: not bob or matty's game. After tonight one of these two are going to win this game
Matty can only win if Bob's gone, and Bob can win only if he wins both immunity challanges. A lot has to go right for either one to win this game.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/451951.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/451951.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead Not a lot has to happen. If ken goes next one of these two guys are going to win the game. Plain and simple

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/451964.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/451964.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead
gomatty3 wrote: Not a lot has to happen. If ken goes next one of these two guys are going to win the game. Plain and simple
That's the problem. Ken can easily pull the "everyone on the jury hates me anyways," so you never really know what bipolar Sugar and insane Suzie could do...

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madbird11 wrote:
gomatty3 wrote: not bob or matty's game. After tonight one of these two are going to win this game
Matty can only win if Bob's gone, and Bob can win only if he wins both immunity challanges. A lot has to go right for either one to win this game.
Not true. Sugar handed the game to Bob and Matty tonite. These two won't mind going to the finals with each other. Sugar and Susie can't win challenges or final TC against either one of these two. Sugar's best hope at this point is to keep Kenny in the game because he might take her to the finals if he gets a choice but with Bob and Matty in the game I don't think he will get to make that choice. Susie and Matty had an alliance way back from the Fang days plus she can be easily beaten in challenges and at final TC. So I don't see Matty choosing Sugar over Susie. One of the things it seems that Sugar hasn't thought about is that the only reason she was never a target was because of the HII. Now that it's not in play anymore she is vulnerable again. And I definitely see her going home soon. She scored points with the jury tonite and if the remaining players are smart they took notice of that.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452047.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452047.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead
bb10fan08 wrote:
madbird11 wrote: [quot - =gomatty3]not bob or matty's game. After tonight one of these two are going to win this game
Matty can only win if Bob's gone, and Bob can win only if he wins both immunity challanges. A lot has to go right for either one to win this game.
Not true. Sugar handed the game to Bob and Matty tonite. These two won't mind going to the finals with each other. Sugar and Susie can't win challenges or final TC against either one of these two. Sugar's best hope at this point is to keep Kenny in the game because he might take her to the finals if he gets a choice but with Bob and Matty in the game I don't think he will get to make that choice. Susie and Matty had an alliance way back from the Fang days plus she can be easily beaten in challenges and at final TC. So I don't see Matty choosing Sugar over Susie. One of the things it seems that Sugar hasn't thought about is that the only reason she was never a target was because of the HII. Now that it's not in play anymore she is vulnerable again. And I definitely see her going home soon. She scored points with the jury tonite and if the remaining players are smart they took notice of that. Your gamblinbg on two things:1. Matty and Bob are the only one's that can beat each other. Bob's in the driver's seat as of now. Matty hasn't won anything? He's hype, but he's played an honest game. What's stopping Bob from offing Matty first chance he gets? Take Kenny and take blind Suzie. There's who you get to pick from, jury.2. The majority of the jury hate Sugar with a passion. Her ship has sailed. The BEST case sinerio is that she's dragged along by Matty or Bob and finishes #2.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452087.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452087.page GMT Everyone's games are dead Been rooting for Bob the whole way here .The man's pushing 60 and he can do it all. He's a physical challenge. He's an integral part of camp, no one contributes more than him. He's a logical, calm thinker. He commands respect from people. He can get strategic when needed, and lie when pushed. He's definitely not the best strategist, but certainly has a good balanced strategy in my opinion.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452102.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452102.page GMT Everyone's games are dead
sultar wrote: Been rooting for Bob the whole way here .The man's pushing 60 and he can do it all. He's a physical challenge. He's an integral part of camp, no one contributes more than him. He's a logical, calm thinker. He commands respect from people. He can get strategic when needed, and lie when pushed. He's definitely not the best strategist, but certainly has a good balanced strategy in my opinion.
And it doesn't hurt to have the jury by the balls...

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452116.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452116.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead
madbird11 wrote:
bb10fan08 wrote: [quot - =madbird11][quot - =gomatty3]not bob or matty's game. After tonight one of these two are going to win this game
Matty can only win if Bob's gone, and Bob can win only if he wins both immunity challanges. A lot has to go right for either one to win this game.
Not true. Sugar handed the game to Bob and Matty tonite. These two won't mind going to the finals with each other. Sugar and Susie can't win challenges or final TC against either one of these two. Sugar's best hope at this point is to keep Kenny in the game because he might take her to the finals if he gets a choice but with Bob and Matty in the game I don't think he will get to make that choice. Susie and Matty had an alliance way back from the Fang days plus she can be easily beaten in challenges and at final TC. So I don't see Matty choosing Sugar over Susie. One of the things it seems that Sugar hasn't thought about is that the only reason she was never a target was because of the HII. Now that it's not in play anymore she is vulnerable again. And I definitely see her going home soon. She scored points with the jury tonite and if the remaining players are smart they took notice of that. Your gamblinbg on two things:1. Matty and Bob are the only one's that can beat each other. Bob's in the driver's seat as of now. Matty hasn't won anything? He's hype, but he's played an honest game. What's stopping Bob from offing Matty first chance he gets? Take Kenny and take blind Suzie. There's who you get to pick from, jury.2. The majority of the jury hate Sugar with a passion. Her ship has sailed. The BEST case sinerio is that she's dragged along by Matty or Bob and finishes #2. I don't think Matty and Bob would choose to take each other because they can beat each other BUT out of respect and a feeling that they are more alike than the rest. Matty said tonite that he didn't mind Bob winning challenges over some other people there. I could see them teaming up especially since Bob dominates in challenges and if Matty wants to stay in the game his best bet is to be on Bob's side. Bob probably senses he can trust Matty so he may not see any urgent need to get him out. Sugar scored major points with the jury tonite any smart player would have taken note of that. Also, she is a bigger physical and strategic threat than Susie. Susie pretty much goes where the wind blows and she can be easily beaten in any challenge. Therefore, I think it's safe to say that Bob and Matty will more likely than not make the final 2 with Susie in the 3rd spot. Sugar's best bet is if Ken wins a IC. He might try to swing votes to get out Bob or Matty. But the more likely outcome is they get rid of Sugar. She is clearly a bigger threat and has made more moves in the game which makes her harder to beat in the end. Even if the jury claims to hate her they can't deny the moves she has made in the game. Being that most of the jury is made up of Bob's old tribemates and Matty really hasn't done alot in the game. Matty is not really a threat to Bob as long as Matty is for him and not against him.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452162.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452162.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead Kenny, Bob and Matty are STILL the only ones that have a chance of winning. Crystal's only shot at winning was an all-women f3... that's gone. So it's Matty, Ken, or Bob. Best case: Kenny Ken isn't completely screwed. There's still a bigger threat to win left in the game in Bob. Matty still is a huge target. Susie has tried to blindside Ken and Matty at this point. It wouldn't surprise me if she joined up with Kenny and Bob to vote out Matty. Sugar seems to be playing by her own rules, so she's not where Kenny wants to go. If Bob, Matty, and Susie came together to vote out Matty, then loser of the final Immunity Challenge between Bob and Kenny is out. The other person wins the game. If Sugar/Susie wins, Susie probably votes Bob, Sugar votes for Jesus to win it as she sees everyone there as sinners, and we have a tie/Bob elimination. Percentage I see this happening: 20% Best case: Matty Sugar really is committed to keeping "good" guys in. Matty wins Immunity x2. Ken is out 4-1, Bob goes out by the wayside next, Matty beats Susie/Sugar easily.50% Best case: Bob Bob isn't being targeted because Matty and Sugar are pissed at Kenny. Kenny is out. Bob wins immunity. Anybody can join him in the FTC.30%

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452207.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452207.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead Bob although on the outside of the alliance, is in a better spot then before. Simply put, if Bob didn't win, he was going to be voted out, if he handed the idol to Kenny, then he would have well been voted out. He got lucky and won immunity, and instead of foolishly giving it to Kenny, he kept it and stayed. Also who ever says Matty isn't playing a good game they are wrong, clearly. Matty obviously has Susie on his side, and it didn't take much to convince Sugar, who in turn convinced Bob to not give the idol to Kenny. The game revolves around Matty, and I believe it has for a while, its just we haven't seen it on TV. Corrine, Charlie, and Randy like him, he is adored by Susie and Sugar. Matty has been playing the game hard ever since he aligned with Sugar and Ace way back when.

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melvilles wrote: Bob although on the outside of the alliance, is in a better spot then before. Simply put, if Bob didn't win, he was going to be voted out, if he handed the idol to Kenny, then he would have well been voted out. He got lucky and won immunity. Something tells me that if Bob lost that challenge and Matty won the challenge, the same out come would have occurred. Also who ever says Matty isn't playing a good game they are wrong, clearly. Matty obviously has Susie on his side, and it didn't take much to convince Sugar, who in turn convinced Bob to not give the idol to Kenny. The game revolves around Matty, and I believe it has for a while, its just we haven't seen it on TV. Corrine, Charlie, and Randy like him, he is adored by Susie and Sugar. Matty has been playing the game hard ever since he aligned with Sugar and Ace way back when.
Corrinne said she didn't like Matty - she just hated Sugar more. Charlie spent like, 48 hours with Matty. Randy is legit. Adored? I don't know - I think Sugar just soured on Matty. Susie is the only one in the game we know isn't opposed to shooting down anyone - so if anyone goes to vote out Matty with Kenny, it's Susie.

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452279.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/452279.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead the only people i can see winning is bob or matty not sugar or suzie most of teh jury hates them not ken casue everybody sept crystal hates him the only way i see this changing is if kenny susi or sugar win the last 2 imunitys and vote matty and bob out but sugar isnt smart enough to think of the end she hasent really the entire game

]]> http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/457464.page http://upnpress.com/forum/posts/preList/30725/457464.page GMT Re:Everyone's games are dead Currently with Crystal in the Jury I think the Order looks like thisMatty is actually number one. I think Randy and Crystal will vote for Matty over Bob. Plus anyone else that goes to the Jury. They will not vote for whom ever the Kota (3) Jury wants. Matty is currently the biggest threat and he doesn't have Ken or Sugar in his pocket - but if any of then go to the Jury they will give him their vote against BobBob is #2 with his only threat being Matty. If Matty doesn't win IC, I can see him going home without question. Bob will never get Randy's vote, but I think if Matty is on the Jury Matty will vote with the Kota 3. Matty could possibly swing it and vote for Susie but he will not vote for Kenny.Susie is #3, even though she has to eliminate her 2 biggest threats being Matty and Bob. Possibly would win against Bob if the final 3 are (Susie, Bob, and Sugar) I think Randy and Crystal will vote for her over Kenny. Why would Crystal gve up her adopted son? becuase of the silent treatment the Kota 3 gave her. I think Crystal will show that not only are they losers but they are losers that aren't even allowed to pick who gets the million.Kenny #4, he can't win against Matty for the mere fact that Randy will give Matty his vote no matter what. It's possible he could win against Bob, though I think Susie or Matty will vote for Bob over Kenny. Kenny is really in a lose lose situation. If Susie is in the final 3, I think Crystal will show them that giving her the silent treatment is worth not giving Kenny a million.Sugar #5, I have to say she can't get Crystal's or Randy's vote. She might be able to swing Kenny's but I think the final 3 castoffs are going to stage a kou with Randy, making Randy the most powerful Jury member. Sugar will remain a goat, but the fact is she will choose the 2 others to go with her. It wont matter who win the IC, I think Kenny will follow her lead like a new born puppy and I think Susie will remain loyal to Matty. I do think Sugar wants to bring Bob and possibly Matty to the finals.Matty will being looking for both Susie's and Kenny's suport to eliminate Bob. I think if Kenny has to choose between Bob or Matty, Kenny at this point believes Bob as the bigger threat. Which will leave up with one final shocker for the 4 - who goes home Kenny or Bob?The final 4 is where Matty has to win the IC, especially if Bob joins the jury. If Kenny goes, Matty is in a better position but will still have to win the final IC, which against Bob has already provento be the biggest challange, But I think Bob might want to keep Matty, thinking he is a shoe in for the win.So basically what I'm saying is everyone's games are far from dead. Bob still has a strong position and could very well win the next 2 IC's. Sugar's tears might be shed for Kenny and that will keep him for the F3. Matty who has been playing a strong outplay game, needs to step it up a bit and win the next 2 IC's - keeping his prediction of himself Susie and Sugar, intact. But just as he is the strongest canidate to win the game he is also the strongest canidate to be the next Jury member.dead no, I think the final 5's games are alive (except Susie's who's game pretty much ended when she voted for Marcus).

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